Thank you Johnny Majors for revivng the UT Program

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We had serious injuries in '02 as well. The biggest faults I can see in Fulmer for '02 were not having the team ready to play in the rain, and letting the chemistry among our players get so lousy (not totally Fulmer's fault though).

2002 was just one of those years that happens every once in a while. As long as they're once a decade, fine. Hopefully they'll be offset with a couple of SEC titles each decade too.


 
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Oct 6, 2005 9:17 PM
2002 was his worst because he lost control of his team for most of the year.  Yes, they were overrated, but good Lord, they had no business getting blown out by Florida and Maryland.

1988...there is no excuse for UT to ever start out 0-5.  Sure, the schedule was front end heavy that year, but that team was sandwiched between and 10 and 11 win team.  They won the SEC the very next year, with many of those same players.
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You must account for the addition of Webb and Pickens, as well as the merciful graduation of Jeff Francis. Those factors played a massive part in the '88-'89 improvement.
 
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From 5-6 to 11-1? They made a difference, but not THAT much of a difference.

It was a bad coaching job that year, plain and simple.
 
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Oct 6, 2005 9:23 PM
From 5-6 to 11-1?  They made a difference, but not THAT much of a difference.

It was a bad coaching job that year, plain and simple.
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Maturation of Harper, Davis, McRae, etc. was also a factor. I'm just saying that the lack of talent in '86 precluded any success. Who of the six losses should we have beaten? Also, Andy Kelly looks like Dan Marino in comparison to Jeff Francis. Francis is the only QB who ever made me long for the days of Steve Alatorre.
 
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Whose job is it to get talent?

I appreciate Majors and all his and his family's contributions to UT but Fulmer has definitely elevated the program in virtually every aspect.

Teams rarely out-tough us now. It happened far too often under Majors.
 
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Originally posted by volinbham@Oct 6, 2005 9:32 PM
Whose job is it to get talent?

I appreciate Majors and all his and his family's contributions to UT but Fulmer has definitely elevated the program in virtually every aspect. 

Teams rarely out-tough us now.  It happened far too often under Majors.
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Rarely out-tough us? Nebraska, K-State, Maryland, Clemson, etc.
 
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There is no way in hell that Washington State should ever come into Knoxville and win, much less beat UT 52-24. Should have beaten Duke, and Alabama was not great that year, either.

Again, UT should never, ever start out a season 0-5. Had we not gone 11-1 the next year, Johnny would have been gone sooner than he was, IMO.
 
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Clemson out cheated us with the practice scouts.

Nebraska beat the hell out of us.

Maryland did the same.

K-State just froze our California Kid out of the stadium.
 
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Oct 6, 2005 9:37 PM
There is no way in hell that Washington State should ever come into Knoxville and win, much less beat UT 52-24.  Should have beaten Duke, and Alabama was not great that year, either.

Again, UT should never, ever start out a season 0-5.  Had we not gone 11-1 the next year, Johnny would have been gone sooner than he was, IMO.
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Washington State won at #1 UCLA, Duke won the ACC. I would agree that Alabama was really bad, probably the one of the six losses I think we could have reversed if we played them again.
 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Oct 6, 2005 9:35 PM
Rarely out-tough us? Nebraska, K-State, Maryland, Clemson, etc.
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Short list. You could make one a mile long with Majors.

 
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damn people cant you say one thing nice rather than only look at the negative. This not about comparing Phil with JM or his bitterness. Its about the good things he has done including the 3 sec championships and 7 bowl victories. Here are the things i remember growing up and i am thank for JM's time. I hope you guys find it in you the good things rather pinpoint every negative thing. You say JM is bitter but some of sound as bitter as him for no reason.
Thank you JM for:

Beating bama 4 years in row
Winning 7 bowls including 4 new years day bowls
Beating number 1 Auburn in 1985
11-1 1989
3 sec championships
Supplying the great list of Wr's
Giving us our first 1000 rusher
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Oct 6, 2005 9:43 PM
damn people cant you say one thing nice rather than only look at the negative. This not about comparing Phil with JM or his bitterness. Its about the good things he has done including the 3 sec championships and 7 bowl victories.  Here are the things i remember growing up and i am thank for JM's time. I hope you guys find it in you the good things rather pinpoint every negative thing.  You say JM is bitter but some of sound as bitter as him for no reason. 
Thank you JM for:

Beating bama 4 years in row
Winning 7 bowls including 4 new years day bowls
Beating number 1 Auburn in 1985
11-1 1989
3 sec championships
Supplying the great list of Wr's
Giving us our first 1000 rusher
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All great accomplishments. Don't worry, I think you'll find most VOLS appreciate Majors for what he did. While I think Fulmer has done a better job overall, I look back fondly on many memories Majors help create.

One you forgot, the Miracle at South Bend!


 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Oct 6, 2005 9:35 PM
Rarely out-tough us? Nebraska, K-State, Maryland, Clemson, etc.
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I agree with Orangetd on this one. The list is short and I wouldn't put Clemson on there anyway. Even when we haven't played well as a team - individuals are giving effort. We just sucked against Clemson and Maryland but I disagree that we were out-toughed the way we were much more frequently under Majors
 
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Originally posted by volinbham@Oct 6, 2005 10:19 PM
I agree with Orangetd on this one.  The list is short and I wouldn't put Clemson on there anyway.  Even when we haven't played well as a team - individuals are giving effort.  We just sucked against Clemson and Maryland but I disagree that we were out-toughed the way we were much more frequently under Majors
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Not out-toughed by Clemson? They literally slap us in the face during warm-ups and we crawl away like beaten pups. Please find me the individuals giving effort in the K-State, Maryland, and Clemson games.
 
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Johnny was a good coach and he started recruiting on a national basis vs. regionally, and he was a great special teams coach. However, if you look at his Pittsburgh years you will see that he brought in huge numbers on scholarship....the team was bought. PF competes on national basis under different terms than Johnny had to. Yes they are both very conservative, but PF has done more for Tn football than anyone. Let's give him that much. I know about 100 D1 schools that would love to have the program we have. I am proud to say I'm a Vol
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Oct 6, 2005 10:43 PM
damn people cant you say one thing nice rather than only look at the negative. This not about comparing Phil with JM or his bitterness. Its about the good things he has done including the 3 sec championships and 7 bowl victories.  Here are the things i remember growing up and i am thank for JM's time. I hope you guys find it in you the good things rather pinpoint every negative thing.  You say JM is bitter but some of sound as bitter as him for no reason. 
Thank you JM for:

Beating bama 4 years in row
Winning 7 bowls including 4 new years day bowls
Beating number 1 Auburn in 1985
11-1 1989
3 sec championships
Supplying the great list of Wr's
Giving us our first 1000 rusher
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nice list. :yes:
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Oct 6, 2005 9:43 PM
damn people cant you say one thing nice rather than only look at the negative. This not about comparing Phil with JM or his bitterness. Its about the good things he has done including the 3 sec championships and 7 bowl victories.  Here are the things i remember growing up and i am thank for JM's time. I hope you guys find it in you the good things rather pinpoint every negative thing.  You say JM is bitter but some of sound as bitter as him for no reason. 
Thank you JM for:

Beating bama 4 years in row
Winning 7 bowls including 4 new years day bowls
Beating number 1 Auburn in 1985
11-1 1989
3 sec championships
Supplying the great list of Wr's
Giving us our first 1000 rusher
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Just 4 in a row? Try 9 of 10!
PF has won a few New Years bowl games too. 1 for a MNC. One was a win over Ohios STate. One a win over Michigan. One, a win over A & M.
2 SEC CHampionships-4 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME appearences.
Supplying a great list of OL, RB DL and DBs
Giving us our first PAIR of 1,000 yard rushers.

Dont tell me I dont have a reason. The man is dissing Tennessee by attacking the head coach. If an Alabama fan came on here doing that, he'd be attacked. Same thing with Johnny Majors.
 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Oct 6, 2005 3:23 PM
You mean the comments where he rips the guy who conspired with Johnson, Dickey, and boosters to take his job?
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Did Fulmer make him get sick? Did Fulmer make him rush back to early? Did Fulmer hold out on Johnny's contract? All Fulmer did was step up and take over the team when UT needed a coach, what was he suppossed to do say " Well, thanks guys , I've only been a player and coach a UT my entire career, but you better get somebody else to fill in for John until he gets better."

Thanks John, you took us as far as you could, and I hope you and the UT family can one day bury the hatchet. (Just not in each other's back)
 
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again this a tribute to what majors did while a coach to all you pessimists. ITs amazing you guys pull out the neg on majors never do the same on fulmer. Take it to the other thread to compare coaches. Its simply to say thank you for what he has done asa coach at UT. I guess with some of you UT football never existed not was good until fulmer got here. I wish some of you grow in the 70's and experience those times. Majors made it better and i thank him for that. Swallow your pride to say thanks.
 
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Originally posted by volmanjr@Oct 7, 2005 8:54 AM
Did Fulmer make him get sick? Did Fulmer make him rush back to early? Did Fulmer hold out on Johnny's contract? All Fulmer did was step up and take over the team when UT needed a coach, what was he suppossed to do say " Well, thanks guys ,  I've only been a player and coach a UT my entire career, but you better get somebody else to fill in for John until he gets better."

Thanks John, you took us as far as you could, and I hope you and the UT family can one day bury the hatchet. (Just not in each other's back)
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There are some people who believe the people they hire, the people who are supposed to be their friends, would be safe caretakers of their jobs while they are laid up recovering from heart surgery.

If I had to miss work due to illness, I'd expect my subordinates to protect my job for me, not discuss my job with my superiors.

I was in a position to know.

I've discussed it all here before and was going to stay out of this one. But when people start dissing John for coming back too soon, I then realize that they have no clue as to what was going on behind John's back while he was SICK.

Just because a person has a RIGHT to do a thing does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.

 
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Originally posted by OldVol@Oct 7, 2005 10:37 AM
There are some people who believe the people they hire, the people who are supposed to be their friends, would be safe caretakers of their jobs while they are laid up recovering from heart surgery.

If I had to miss work due to illness, I'd expect my subordinates to protect my job for me, not discuss my job with my superiors.

I was in a position to know.

I've discussed it all here before and was going to stay out of this one. But when people start dissing John for coming back too soon, I then realize that they have no clue as to what was going on behind John's back while he was SICK.

Just because a person has a RIGHT to do a thing does not mean it is the RIGHT thing to do.
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Careful OV I went down that road got blasted!
 
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Originally posted by crimedawg12@Oct 7, 2005 10:41 AM
Careful OV I went down that road got blasted!
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That should have read AND GOT BLASTED! I offer my hand in peace!
 
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Please take the compaisons to the other thread- All you bashers swallow your pride and say a nice thing for once.
 
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