That Old Time Religion ( ISLAM )

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J-P said:
I certainly don't see where you expressed any disgust about the act.

Perhaps you were too busy attacking me. Don't worry, I'm not that influential.

And for the record, I tried to post just the quote from the article. VN would not allow me to, it required that I put something outside of the quote tags, so all I could think to say at the time was "Well, there it is."
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Then I apologize.
 
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BearCat204 said:
The Taliban refer to it as the "Finger of God", true story.

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I'm so sick of those SOB's. We must have killed thousands over the last decade, but it seems to not even have made a dent in their freakish ways.
 
#28
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J-P said:
I would recommend no wives and definitely no children when you play it. It is very hard to see, even when you remember that it is acting, but it portrays real events.
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Thanks, when the fiancee and I saw the trailer, we both were intrigued. If it shows actual stoning, she will probably mae me turn it off. She is very squeamish when it comes to blood and violence. she has good reason, so I oblige her.
 
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J-P said:
Actually, God despises it and will judge it quite thoroughly in His time.

Most civilized people despise it also.

Perhaps you should watch The Stoning of Soraya M to get a feel for the brutality of the act that is being reported here. Also check out Osama, while you're at it.
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Which is why huge numbers of Muslims in Egypt turned out to defend (as body-shields) the Copts. Al-Jazeera covered this as a huge support measure for defending everyone's (all branches of Islam, Christianity, etc) to practice. It wasn't seen as an attack on Christians, per se, it was seen as an attack on all Egyptians. Also, bear in mind, the Sunnis and Shia don't get along. They're very much like the Catholics and Protestants during the hundreds of years of turmoil that erupted in Europe. Cultural differences compound an already tenuous practice difference between subsets of the same religion.


Also, for someone that labasted having assumptions being made about him... you seem ready to make assumptions about me.
 
#32
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J-P said:
How about you point out where I brushed the entire Islamic community with one paint stroke accusing them of this brutal act?

The Taliban leader is an Islamic leader. His beliefs represent a large proportion of the Islamic community. I recognize that his beliefs do not represent the beliefs of 100% of the Islamic community.

I probably have had quite a bit more dealings with Afghani Muslims than you have.

There is no defense for anyone who would commit this act, would stand idly by and witness this act, nor would defend this act, regardless of who has done what in history. Can we agree at least that much?
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You accuse me of making assumptions, then you make assumptions about my knowledge of Afghanistan. The Taliban leader is no more of an Islamic leader than Fred Phelps is a leader of Christians.

There is no excuse for this act, but turning the thread into a hate-filled diatribe on Islam, isn't exactly advancing your point.
 
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DC Vol said:
Also, for someone that labasted having assumptions being made about him... you seem ready to make assumptions about me.
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I suppose I misinterpreted your comment as you being flippant about the matter. You're right, I jumped to an assumption about you and I apologize. I know we don't see eye to eye about God (I'm pretty sure we have discussed this in the distant past), but you deserve as much respect and grace as I do.

There is a long history on the VolNation Politics forum of immediate finger pointing at Christianity as soon as an Islamic atrocity comes up. At times the forum is downright anti-Christian, which is why I don't frequent it as much as I used to, so I was on the defensive as soon as replies to my first post started coming.

I'm gearing it back down now.
 
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The forum is anti-Christian? Let's start a thread with a title negative to Christianity, and one negative to anything else, and see which one gets more posters in it raising hell.
 
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bam15 said:
You accuse me of making assumptions, then you make assumptions about my knowledge of Afghanistan. The Taliban leader is no more of an Islamic leader than Fred Phelps is a leader of Christians.

There is no excuse for this act, but turning the thread into a hate-filled diatribe on Islam, isn't exactly advancing your point.
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Can you show me where I did that? Because I've looked over my comments and I don't see it.
 
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J-P said:
There is a long history on the VolNation Politics forum of immediate finger pointing at Christianity as soon as an Islamic atrocity comes up.
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Witch! I mean, adulterer!

Christianity has like a 600 year head start on Islam, which is just now entering their witch hunt years.

Granted, they will probably continue, but who knows, maybe they'll outgrow it. Doubtful, though. I think they've been in this witch hunt since the beginning.

I guess you can't teach old dogs new tricks, especially when the training manual has the same old tricks.
 
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fl0at said:
Witch! I mean, adulterer!

Christianity has like a 600 year head start on Islam, which is just now entering their witch hunt years.

Granted, they will probably continue, but who knows, maybe they'll outgrow it. Doubtful, though. I think they've been in this witch hunt since the beginning.

I guess you can't teach old dogs new tricks, especially when the training manual has the same old tricks.
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This has been covered in great detail.
 
#39
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fl0at said:
We could cover it in greater detail, but then we'd actually have to go read it again, and... that doesn't sound appealing.
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True,

Be like trying to figure out how many players we can sign in the recruiting forum. If you don't remember, just bring it up again and watch how different answers you get. And it typically comes back to the original #.
 
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J-P said:
I suppose I misinterpreted your comment as you being flippant about the matter. You're right, I jumped to an assumption about you and I apologize. I know we don't see eye to eye about God (I'm pretty sure we have discussed this in the distant past), but you deserve as much respect and grace as I do.
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I'm actually not anti-Christian in the least.

I just can't stand Christians (and Americans for that matter) who believe they're righteous and the chosen disciples of God and have never and can never do any evil. They preach what Christ preached but don't really seem to understand it. That isn't what Christianity (in my view) is supposed to be. Showing intolerance to an entire religion is not what these United States are supposed to be.


Thousands of Muslims stood arm-in-arm with Christians in Egypt in response to a terrorist minority that targeted the Copts (that have targeted fellow Muslims far more often). What did we see here from proclaimed Christians?

"MUSLIMS KILLING MORE CHRISTIANS"

Nothing about the show of welfare between men (regardless of what Muslim or Christian branch they followed) that protected the Copts. If you posted that in an attempt to spread rationality and shed ignorance you're labeled as a "libtard", a muslim, etc and given education about how Muslims treated Christians in Spain hundreds of years ago fully ignoring how Christians treated Muslims at Acre, Jerusalem, etc during the same time period.

Selective education and interpretation is also something I don't subscribe to. That's how extremists train their "soldiers of God".
 
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TALIBAN SPOKESMAN: 'Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country'
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Far be it from me to defend the Taliban. But I would like to see a moderate refute the fact of this statement. While the starting point is absurd, everything that follows after is perfectly logical...ie, given the requisite precursors (no matter how absurd), such logic is perfectly valid and moral.

Do I believe all Muslims believe this nonsense? Of course not. But the theology is there, no matter if they ignore it or not.
 
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bam15 said:
Next time I find an act of a so-called Christian committing acts of violence, I will post it on this forum with the title "That Old Time Religion." The act itself is gruesome and a tragedy, but is caused by few. The title implies that the religion itself is to blame.
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Here you go!
 
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