That's racist!

[allvol123]

He's a moron for making the statements

Actually we are a moronic society for thinking he should need to resign for making stupid comments.

But these are the same people that said “what’s the big deal” in regards to the POTUS getting blown by a staffer.

 

[allvol123]

I get that but Gruden works for an organization that employs African Americans and women

Did he say something specifically about African Americans?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I get that but Gruden works for an organization that employs African Americans and women

so what?

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Did he say something specifically about African Americans?

Yes, as a matter of fact

 

[allvol123]

Yes, as a matter of fact

What?

 

[USAFgolferVol]

What?

So you haven't been following the story yet pop off your usual know-nothing BS?

He specifically disparaged DeMaurice Smith about his big lips

 

[allvol123]

So you haven't been following the story yet pop off your usual know-nothing BS?

He specifically disparaged DeMaurice Smith about his big lips

I know that much.

Looks like you failed, as usual.

I ask you again. Where did he mention black people. Or you’re extrapolating here, lol. Bet I know.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

I know that much.

Looks like you failed, as usual.

I ask you again. Where did he mention black people. Or you’re extrapolating here, lol. Bet I know.

DeMaurice Smith is African American

 

[Weezer]

Yes, as a matter of fact

Not sure that he did. He made a specific race-related comment about an individual who is an AA, but I don't believe anything has been revealed where he commented on al AAs.

Also, record companies have employees too.

 

[allvol123]

DeMaurice Smith is African American

I know this.

But he is not all black people. He is one person.

Once again. What did he say about black people. Read it slowly this time.

 

[hog88]

He's been using his personal email account and the email was sent to Allen, whose account was on the NFL server.

Ok, he and Allen were morons. Keep personal conversations to personal email accounts.

 

[hog88]

He's a moron for making the statements

The statements weren’t that bad. Nothing terribly racist (that I’ve seen).

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Ok, he and Allen were morons. Keep personal conversations to personal email accounts.

Yep, but for more than using wrong email accounts

 

[hog88]

Yep, but for more than using wrong email accounts

No, there wasn’t anything I’ve seen reported that was fireable in a sane world.

 

[VolStrom]

The statements weren’t that bad. Nothing terribly racist (that I’ve seen).

Don't you know that everything is racist, homophobic and misogynistic these days. There is no way to not be one of the labels in today's society.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

No, there wasn’t anything I’ve seen reported that was fireable in a sane world.

I disagree

 

[hog88]

I disagree

Imagine that

 

[allvol123]

Don't you know that everything is racist, homophobic and misogynistic these days. There is no way to not be one of the labels in today's society.

Not only that, but to even have a thought that borders racist is now the worst sin ever.

You’d be better of being outed as a pedophile than a racist.

 

[allvol123]

Like Charles Barkley said, “that’s why I hate white people”.

Get what I did there?

 

[FLVOL_79]

So you haven't been following the story yet pop off your usual know-nothing BS?

He specifically disparaged DeMaurice Smith about his big lips

His lips are big. So are Angelia Jolie's.

The more disparaging reference to them would be "What could those lips do?"...but that would confuse the left.

 

[joevol24]

Technically, the comment had nothing to do with the size of his lips. Gruden stated he calls liars "rubber lips". It was a statement to how big of a liar he thought Smith was.

But I know, let's jump to race because that is the world we live in.

 

[BayVol7]

No, his boss took up the cape of virtual signaling and pretended to be offended. Same as you, same as ESPN, same as everyone else who was not directly insulted nor has a personal relationship with Jon Gruden.

I was referring to the commissioner.

 

[BayVol7]

And you dare call anyone else uninformed?

He had a losing record with the raiders.

 

[BayVol7]

Did he say something specifically about African Americans?

He said Eric Reid should be fired and the comment about DeMaurice Smith was absolutely racial. If a Semitic trope would have been referenced, many less would plead ignorance.

I also have a feeling more is coming…

 

[BayVol7]

I get that those words are not acceptable, that line of thinking is not right and that it was incredibly stupid to use them in an email. I find the consistency at how people are judged in today’s society to be beyond absurd. For example

Here’s just one little lyric from one of the performers at this year’s Super Bowl Halftime show:

A-tiskit a-taskit
I go tit for tat with anybody who's talking this $hit, that $hit
Chris Kirkpatrick, you can get your ass kicked
Worse than them little Limp Bizkit bastards
And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie
You thirty six year old bald headed F@G, b—w me
You don't know me, you're too old, let go, its over
Nobody listens to techno

I know those lyrics off the top of my head. I’ve known them for a while. I know some Jay Z as well that could also be categorized the same way as Gruden’s emails. Again, not saying that it’s ok. I’m just saying that a lot of people pretending that Gruden is a racist, homophobe and whatever other label you want to throw his way are going to be the same people talking about how great the Super Bowl Halftime show was and probably have a lot of their music on their phones. Which, like I said, makes most coming down on Gruden completely hypocritical and FOS.

Are we all gonna cancel Eminem and Jay Z now too? I’m guessing those words are different, those are just words and not actions.

I’m definitely not an Eminem fan but can you not acknowledge the difference between song lyrics and emails sent to a work address? Eminem is also not leading men and he does not have a working relationship with Moby. I understand your consistency argument but context always matters.