The 2nd career adventures of Yankee

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YV, you may or may not know, but I figured I'd ask...

I'm a 3-time Nissan Frontier owner. Have had nothing but good luck with all 3. On my 2nd PRO-4X; at 68,000 miles; paid off. The design might be dated (it is), but mechanically all 3 have been solid, dependable trucks. I'm looking towards the 2021 Frontier, which it looks like will be an updated appearance (finally!), and the updated drivetrain that debuts in the 2020 models. I figure get it now, and it's paid off when (if) I retire in 5-6 years. That's my thought process.

How much leverage do I lose on the floor going in with the mindset that I want a new Frontier? I'm not too picky about color, but I do want another PRO-4X.

I'll hang up and listen.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
YV, you may or may not know, but I figured I'd ask...

I'm a 3-time Nissan Frontier owner. Have had nothing but good luck with all 3. On my 2nd PRO-4X; at 68,000 miles; paid off. The design might be dated (it is), but mechanically all 3 have been solid, dependable trucks. I'm looking towards the 2021 Frontier, which it looks like will be an updated appearance (finally!), and the updated drivetrain that debuts in the 2020 models. I figure get it now, and it's paid off when (if) I retire in 5-6 years. That's my thought process.

How much leverage do I lose on the floor going in with the mindset that I want a new Frontier? I'm not too picky about color, but I do want another PRO-4X.

I'll hang up and listen.
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None really, it makes the process easier. I prefer a customer who knows what they want.

You're going to get the best deal for what's on the lot, so no color preference helps.
 
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volinbham said:
good thing you didn't quit YV.

WRT the undercoating - my favorite dealer add on is is the $100 plus for Nitrogen in the tires.
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What’s the alleged benefit of nitrogen? Is that supposed to extend the life of the tires if one doesn’t drive very much? I could do that at my lab, with a vacuum pump and my tank of liquid N2, but don’t think the benefit would be worth the trouble.
 
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RavinDave said:
What’s the alleged benefit of nitrogen? Is that supposed to extend the life of the tires if one doesn’t drive very much? I could do that at my lab, with a vacuum pump and my tank of liquid N2, but don’t think the benefit would be worth the trouble.
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I bought a used car with nitrogen in the tires. The only thing I noticed was the tire pressure was more consistent. It did not change when the weather changed. This was particularly a benefit in the fall and spring when I typically need to add air to my tires. The pressure warning light comes on in the other car on the morning after that first very cold night.
 
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RavinDave said:
What’s the alleged benefit of nitrogen? Is that supposed to extend the life of the tires if one doesn’t drive very much? I could do that at my lab, with a vacuum pump and my tank of liquid N2, but don’t think the benefit would be worth the trouble.
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The benefit of nitrogen is it is not supposed to change temp as much as air. So when you drive its supposed to keep the tires at the correct pressure which would in theory help the tires last longer. Also when there is a temp change outside its not supposed to drop the temp in the tires causing the tire light to come on.

I have used nitrogen in dealers that I have worked at. It will cut down on the number of tire lights we see come on when there is a drop in temp but as far as the extended life of the tire I can't say that it does or doesnt.
 
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Any of you guys sell Toyota's? I don't get them. I see Ford, Chevy, Dodge with massive discounts and 0% financing on about everything. I keep watching toyota and all I hear is crickets.
 
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Go aeiou said:
I bought a used car with nitrogen in the tires. The only thing I noticed was the tire pressure was more consistent. It did not change when the weather changed. This was particularly a benefit in the fall and spring when I typically need to add air to my tires. The pressure warning light comes on in the other car on the morning after that first very cold night.
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Thanks. I would not have thought it made that much difference based on the heat capacities of N2 and O2 (29.04 vs. 29.47 J/mol-degK); maybe thermal conductivity of the gas is more of a factor.
 
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Orangesmokey said:
The benefit of nitrogen is it is not supposed to change temp as much as air. So when you drive its supposed to keep the tires at the correct pressure which would in theory help the tires last longer. Also when there is a temp change outside its not supposed to drop the temp in the tires causing the tire light to come on.

I have used nitrogen in dealers that I have worked at. It will cut down on the number of tire lights we see come on when there is a drop in temp but as far as the extended life of the tire I can't say that it does or doesnt.
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Thanks. See my reply to Go aeiou who made a similar post a minute before you.
 
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Mac Boles said:
Any of you guys sell Toyota's? I don't get them. I see Ford, Chevy, Dodge with massive discounts and 0% financing on about everything. I keep watching toyota and all I hear is crickets.
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Toyota is expecting a shortage of inventory by late June or early July. They are also experiencing increases in market share. When you are gaining market share and supply is decreasing, there isn't much need for large discounts.
 
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RavinDave said:
What’s the alleged benefit of nitrogen? Is that supposed to extend the life of the tires if one doesn’t drive very much? I could do that at my lab, with a vacuum pump and my tank of liquid N2, but don’t think the benefit would be worth the trouble.
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There’s really not. At least not for being charged for it.
 
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Go aeiou said:
I bought a used car with nitrogen in the tires. The only thing I noticed was the tire pressure was more consistent. It did not change when the weather changed. This was particularly a benefit in the fall and spring when I typically need to add air to my tires. The pressure warning light comes on in the other car on the morning after that first very cold night.
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Nitrogen helps in two area.
1) It's bottled gas so little to no moisture in the tire which reduces chances of sensor contamination.
2) Nitrogen is an inert gas so it doesn't break down the tire from the inside, and prevents oxidation for the sensor
It's all about protecting the tire monitors.
 
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Mac Boles said:
Any of you guys sell Toyota's? I don't get them. I see Ford, Chevy, Dodge with massive discounts and 0% financing on about everything. I keep watching toyota and all I hear is crickets.
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Have you visited their website? They have 0% on most models.
 
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