The "Alright let's hurry up I'm going to IHOP" Postgame Report

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There are few things more pathetic (and predictable) than when people blame the refs for a loss where your team completely laid down in the second half.
 
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Blood Runs Orange said:
There are few things more pathetic (and predictable) than when people blame the refs for a loss where your team completely laid down in the second half.
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Like when the team itself does the same thing??


@wesrucker247: #Vols Antonio Barton: "We were playing against the refs tonight. We just started trying not to get fouls called. You can't do that."
 
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Yet another inexcusable loss that we couldn't afford. First the UTEP loss, now this one. I didn't get too excited about the Virginia or LSU wins because I knew there was still yet another turd in the punch bowl loss to come (yes folks, there will still be some more). Martin showed yet again that he is an inept X's and O's coach during the game. When the other coach adjusts he freezes. It's become par for the course and predictable. There is no way in hell a UT team with that kind of talent and experience should have lost that game at home tonight. None. Yet, they did. That's on the head ball coach who along with his incompetent staff continues to fail the players.
 
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From KNS writer's twitter:

Ben Frederickson ‏@Ben_Fred 3h

Barton on if #Vols had a play after the 3-pointer went in: “There was nothing set up. I didn’t even know how much time was left."

Wow. You don't say Antonio? You mean to tell me that Martin didn't have a play drawn up? Color me f'n shocked.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
From KNS writer's twitter:

Ben Frederickson ‏@Ben_Fred 3h

Barton on if #Vols had a play after the 3-pointer went in: “There was nothing set up. I didn’t even know how much time was left."

Wow. You don't say Antonio? You mean to tell me that Martin didn't have a play drawn up? Color me f'n shocked.
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Players take after their coach, and our coach is clueless.
 
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#57
The officiating was painful, but the zebras didn't pass it into the corner against press D, part the red sea for a layup, and miss clutch FTs in the last two minutes. Such a frustrating end. We are better than this.
 
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Wes Rucker said that UT was called for 7 offensive fouls in the 2nd half. 7. Not for the game, but the 2nd half alone. That's atrocious. The refs sucked balls, but at some point your coach needs to stand up for your team. Yet, what did Martin do? Not a damn thing. Par for the course.
 
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If he calls timeout, many of you folks are *****ing because he didn't let them play. I can hear it now--"by calling a timeout, we let aTm set up their defense". Second guessers gonna second guess no matter the decision.

Terrible loss, no doubt, but attributing it to not calling a timeout misses the boat
 
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Letting them come back in late 2nd half was all CCM's fault. He should've called a Time Out w/ 3 minutes left and say something like "We are down by 7! Can we get this!!!!!"
 
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Vols4us said:
It was the worst officiating job of the year. To deny it is your option, but you would be incorrect. aTm was in the bonus and double bonus before UT in the second half. If an aTm player made a drive to the basket and the UT player tried to cut the move off there would be a foul called. If the reverse happened the UT player would be shoved with no call. Our bigs stopped helping because they would not call a charge or would get called for contesting the shot. Same with Richardson as he contested shots. Watch the replay. What made it worse it was at home. Absolutely no respect for Zo, the players or UT at all.

Officials should fear when they enter TBA like they seemingly do when they enter Rupp. The HC sets the tone along with the players. This bunch of players reflect their HC's attitude and approach. Oh, well, Eeyore. Hang your head and blubber some senseless garbage after the game. No Plan B - ever. No emotional outbursts at the refs or players. No TO's to stop runs or make adjustments.

Time to move on. Seen enough.
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The worst thing about the officiating is that you don't know which bag you're going to get.
The LSU game refs, let them play.
This crew called the touch fouls and allowed Stokes to be mugged time and again.
Need some consistency somewhere.
 
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1985Vols said:
Worst officiating I have seen this year. I was at the game and they constantly blew their whistles and half the time if was for illegal screens. They must have called 10 of them and I haven't seen half a dozen called all season. The officiating in this conference is piss poor and so inconsistent it ruins the game. I would have said the same thing had we won. It's to the point where I don't think I will be purchasing season tix anymore.
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I agree the officiating was bad Sat. But how about working them just a little bit. CCM had a fantom foul call on McRae happen right in front of our bench in the first half and did or said absolutely nothing. I get that CCM isn't a scream, yell, or get in your face type of coach. But he has to have his players backs better than that. IMO
 
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Lefteye said:
I agree the officiating was bad Sat. But how about working them just a little bit. CCM had a fantom foul call on McRae happen right in front of our bench in the first half and did or said absolutely nothing. I get that CCM isn't a scream, yell, or get in your face type of coach. But he has to have his players backs better than that. IMO
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Ok, not calling you out, but I'm suspicious of everyone that claims that Martin doesn't work the officials. For one to know that for sure, they would have to be sitting behind the UT bench in the first 15 or so rows. If someone is that close, and they can generally hear Martin at any given point, then I would love to hear exactly what he does instead of working the refs. If my suspicions are confirmed, most people criticizing Martin on this aspect are basing that solely on the fact that the camera doesn't cut to him after every single foul is called. That's all. You actually have no idea what Martin did or didn't do.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Ok, not calling you out, but I'm suspicious of everyone that claims that Martin doesn't work the officials. For one to know that for sure, they would have to be sitting behind the UT bench in the first 15 or so rows. If someone is that close, and they can generally hear Martin at any given point, then I would love to hear exactly what he does instead of working the refs. If my suspicions are confirmed, most people criticizing Martin on this aspect are basing that solely on the fact that the camera doesn't cut to him after every single foul is called. That's all. You actually have no idea what Martin did or didn't do.
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I know on the Tv you can hear "hands" randomly all the time. I know a lot say that he isn't very vocal but that is one thing you can expect to hear from him lol. Gets me weak every time lol.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Ok, not calling you out, but I'm suspicious of everyone that claims that Martin doesn't work the officials. For one to know that for sure, they would have to be sitting behind the UT bench in the first 15 or so rows. If someone is that close, and they can generally hear Martin at any given point, then I would love to hear exactly what he does instead of working the refs. If my suspicions are confirmed, most people criticizing Martin on this aspect are basing that solely on the fact that the camera doesn't cut to him after every single foul is called. That's all. You actually have no idea what Martin did or didn't do.
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I watch him during the game from section 130. He doesn't work the refs. He would have gotten a T by accident somewhere along in his career by this point if he did. He lets the officials walk all over his teams.

We got absolutely abused at home Saturday by the refs. Abused.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I watch him during the game from section 130. He doesn't work the refs. He would have gotten a T by accident somewhere along in his career by this point if he did. He lets the officials walk all over his teams.

We got absolutely abused at home Saturday by the refs. Abused.
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His passive nature has helped to negate any homecourt advantage we ever had.
 
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@wesrucker247: Cuonzo: We had 7 moving screens called in the A&M game. On 5 of them, we weren't moving.


More excuses!!

First team chemistry

Now officiating!

Sick of them!!!!
 
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And I would guess that none of those screens were from picks to attack the basket, but were out away from the basket while doing our halfcourt bull****.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Ok, not calling you out, but I'm suspicious of everyone that claims that Martin doesn't work the officials. For one to know that for sure, they would have to be sitting behind the UT bench in the first 15 or so rows. If someone is that close, and they can generally hear Martin at any given point, then I would love to hear exactly what he does instead of working the refs. If my suspicions are confirmed, most people criticizing Martin on this aspect are basing that solely on the fact that the camera doesn't cut to him after every single foul is called. That's all. You actually have no idea what Martin did or didn't do.
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The fact that UT had 7 offensive fouls called on them in the 2nd half alone should tell you all you need to know. I can never remember a team being called for 7 offensive fouls in one half. Any coach worth his salt would've let the refs know that and either gotten a T or damn close to one.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Ok, not calling you out, but I'm suspicious of everyone that claims that Martin doesn't work the officials. For one to know that for sure, they would have to be sitting behind the UT bench in the first 15 or so rows. If someone is that close, and they can generally hear Martin at any given point, then I would love to hear exactly what he does instead of working the refs. If my suspicions are confirmed, most people criticizing Martin on this aspect are basing that solely on the fact that the camera doesn't cut to him after every single foul is called. That's all. You actually have no idea what Martin did or didn't do.
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BigZiti09 said:
I watch him during the game from section 130. He doesn't work the refs. He would have gotten a T by accident somewhere along in his career by this point if he did. He lets the officials walk all over his teams.

We got absolutely abused at home Saturday by the refs. Abused.
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This is my opinion also Chris. And I used that one play because if ever their was a time to earn a tech, or at the very least display his displeasure it was then.

I'm not saying he should have went all Fran McCaffery and got tossed, but get in the refs ear for heavens sake. Make them remember their last close call b4 making their next.
 
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Lefteye said:
I'm not saying he should have went all Fran McCaffery and got tossed, but get in the refs ear for heavens sake. Make them remember their last close call b4 making their next.
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Exactly. He doesn't have to act like Bobby Knight, but you've got to make those refs feel your presence. Otherwise, they will (consciously or subconsciously) make 50/50 calls against the team with a doormat for a head coach.

Have a freaking SPINE!!!!
 
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Lefteye said:
This is my opinion also Chris. And I used that one play because if ever their was a time to earn a tech, or at the very least display his displeasure it was then.

I'm not saying he should have went all Fran McCaffery and got tossed, but get in the refs ear for heavens sake. Make them remember their last close call b4 making their next.
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Right, I don't disagree with that, but my question is how do you know he didn't? If you're like me, and saw the game on TV, I have no idea what he did or didn't do.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Right, I don't disagree with that, but my question is how do you know he didn't? If you're like me, and saw the game on TV, I have no idea what he did or didn't do.
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I have attended 90% of the games during the CCM era. He doesn't work refs.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I have attended 90% of the games during the CCM era. He doesn't work refs.
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I've been to plenty games where I sat about 50 feet away from Bruce or Cuonzo and couldn't hear a word either of them. The width of the court is about 50 feet, right?
 
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