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05_never_again said:
Depends on who the losses are to. How many seasons have 12 teams who are 11-1 or better?
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TBrown said:
12 teams finished the regular season with 10 wins last year.
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Which is why expanded playoffs were a stupid idea to begin with.
You can go 10-2 and best nobody goof.

The pros, playoffs make sense because the gap between most teams isn't all that wide. While in CFB Ohio St and Michigan are going to be running into the playoffs beating Northwestern and Purdue.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Which is why expanded playoffs were a stupid idea to begin with.
You can go 10-2 and best nobody goof.

The pros, playoffs make sense because the gap between most teams isn't all that wide. While in CFB Ohio St and Michigan are going to be running into the playoffs beating Northwestern and Purdue.
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Agree on not expanding the playoffs but cats outta the bag man.

There are too many playoff teams in MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, etc.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Which is why expanded playoffs were a stupid idea to begin with.
You can go 10-2 and best nobody goof.

The pros, playoffs make sense because the gap between most teams isn't all that wide. While in CFB Ohio St and Michigan are going to be running into the playoffs beating Northwestern and Purdue.
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I agree it should have been 8 with quarterfinals hosted by higher seed/conference champion (would not really have cared about who gets #8 between Oregon, Penn State, Missouri and Oklahoma) but with the G5 threatening to sue the NCAA without some form of representation it was always going to be 12.
 
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TBrown said:
Agree on not expanding the playoffs but cats outta the bag man.

There are too many playoff teams in MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, etc.
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NHL is the only one where I think 16 is fine. 7/8 seeds have had enough success to justify 16 NHL teams.

Agree about the other 3. Should be 8 in MLB, 12 in NFL, 14 in NBA.
 
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TBrown said:
This is headed towards SEC / B1G world either as stand alones or 1v1 super conferences. Wouldn’t sweat the meantime too much.
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Gonna be 24 schools in each conference with a whole separate division. Those final 8 spots competing to see who gets in going to be a doozy
 
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zjcvols said:
I agree it should have been 8 with quarterfinals hosted by higher seed/conference champion (would not really have cared about who gets #8 between Oregon, Penn State, Missouri and Oklahoma) but with the G5 threatening to sue the NCAA without some form of representation it was always going to be 12.
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Hopefully a G5 playoff satisfies them.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Which is why expanded playoffs were a stupid idea to begin with.
You can go 10-2 and best nobody goof.

The pros, playoffs make sense because the gap between most teams isn't all that wide. While in CFB Ohio St and Michigan are going to be running into the playoffs beating Northwestern and Purdue.
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Alabama gets to play Vandy and South Carolina.

Ohio St plays @Oregon, @Penn St, and Michigan. If they go 10-2 they in all likelihood would have beaten somebody good, unless one of those teams doesn't have a good season.
 
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05_never_again said:
Alabama gets to play Vandy and South Carolina.

Ohio St plays @Oregon, @Penn St, and Michigan. If they go 10-2 they in all likelihood would have beaten somebody good, unless one of those teams doesn't have a good season.
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There are usually maybe 5 truly excellent college football teams a year and people just think everyone else sucks. There is such thing as tiers.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
While also playing
TN
 OU
UGA
LSU

I mean that's more hard games than Michigan or OSU play in 4 years.
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Ohio St and Michigan both play Penn St each year. Ohio St has played ND each of the last 2 years. I'm not saying Ohio St/Michigan play an equivalent to an SEC schedule, but it isn't this "they play only one game a year" thing SEC people make it out to be.

Let's also stop pretending that there is this vast gulf between the bottom of the SEC and the bottom of the Big 10 in any given year. Purdue and Indiana are garbage; Vandy and Arkansas are garbage.
 
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05_never_again said:
Ohio St and Michigan both play Penn St each year. Ohio St has played ND each of the last 2 years. I'm not saying Ohio St/Michigan play an equivalent to an SEC schedule, but it isn't this "they play only one game a year" thing SEC people make it out to be.

Let's also stop pretending that there is this vast gulf between the bottom of the SEC and the bottom of the Big 10 in any given year. Purdue and Indiana are garbage; Vandy and Arkansas are garbage.
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Penn St and ND are both 8 win SEC teams..... That's barely more impressive than beating Kentucky.
 
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05_never_again said:
Ohio St and Michigan both play Penn St each year. Ohio St has played ND each of the last 2 years. I'm not saying Ohio St/Michigan play an equivalent to an SEC schedule, but it isn't this "they play only one game a year" thing SEC people make it out to be.

Let's also stop pretending that there is this vast gulf between the bottom of the SEC and the bottom of the Big 10 in any given year. Purdue and Indiana are garbage; Vandy and Arkansas are garbage.
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The other counter argument. Iowa plays in the conferences champ game..... They got torched by an 8 win TN team, that was very average. Yes we have bad teams but our mid to upper tier is way tougher.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
The other counter argument. Iowa plays in the conferences champ game..... They got torched by an 8 win TN team, that was very average. Yes we have bad teams but our mid to upper tier is way tougher.
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That's purely a function of having their title game participants determined by geographically-based division champs. Iowa was not the second best team in that conference.

Also, I agree that the SEC's mid to upper tier is tougher. I was specifically talking about the "Vandy would win 6 games in the Big 10" crowd.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
By the 10 win argument for the playoffs, then Iowa should've been a playoff team. Do you really think they were playoff caliber?
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Well there were more than 12 teams who had at least 10 regular season wins last year, so no.

I never said 10 wins should automatically got you in. You said 10-2 wasn't good enough to get in, but you couldn't fill the bracket some years (all years?) if that was the case.
 
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05_never_again said:
Well there were more than 12 teams who had at least 10 regular season wins last year, so no.

I never said 10 wins should automatically got you in. You said 10-2 wasn't good enough to get in, but you couldn't fill the bracket some years (all years?) if that was the case.
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Correct, and while I will defend that I think the top half of the SEC is tough. I don't think Mizzou or OM should get in at 10-2.
Lastly and most controversial if we go 10-2 but go 1-2 against UGA, Bama and OU. I don't think we deserve the playoffs.
I think that's an extremely weak resume.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Correct, and while I will defend that I think the top half of the SEC is tough. I don't think Mizzou or OM should get in at 10-2.
Lastly and most controversial if we go 10-2 but go 1-2 against UGA, Bama and OU. I don't think we deserve the playoffs.
I think that's an extremely weak resume.
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It's all relative. That's a weak resume...compared to who?

It's hard to make that statement in a vacuum. What are the resumes of the other bubble teams going to look like?
 
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