The Braves Thread

#677
#677
Jordan had the best prime of anyone but he also only played 11 seasons of meaningful basketball. He only played 18 and 17 games for two years, missed a full season, and was done in his Washington years. Durability is important. It’s the biggest mark on his career. I think it’s logical to say Kareem is the GOAT based on the fact he played 20 seasons of basketball and was elite for 17 of those.
 
#680
#680
Kareem 1st or 2nd team All-NBA seasons- 15

Jordan actual NBA seasons- 15
 
#685
#685
Scotty's Flat Top said:
Umm have you never heard of Wilt Chamberlain?

ya know averaged 30 and 23 freakin’ boards over 15 season.
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When he played in a partially segregated league and three players over 6’8 and in a league where they were shooting 160 times per game?
 
#690
#690
Take Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, or whatever great center and put him in 1960 they would have put up Wilts numbers.
 
#692
#692
Kareem is one of the top 5 best centers of all time and dominated the NBA and his position for over a decade, in the era when centers owned the League. But, if u can't dribble the ball down court and create your own shot, imo, u can't be the GOAT.

Btw, if anybody was wondering, my top 5 centers are, in order: Wilt, Hakeem, Kareem, Russell and Shaq
 
#693
#693
GAVol said:
Otherwise known as.... half his career.

You're going fanboy over a stat sheet.
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And was still a top 5-10 player in his league in year 15 when Jordan was smoking cigars and gambling.
 
#695
#695
zjcvols said:
And was still a top 5-10 player in his league in year 15 when Jordan was smoking cigars and gambling.
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Debatable. By then, Kareem was probably a 20/7 type Center benefiting from a great 4 and a great PG.

The league was loaded back then.
 
#696
#696
The Dog said:
I saw your original post before u edited it and wouldn't that had been Wilt?
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Wilt was really good in his final couple years so I think that’s fair.

The issue with Wilt is the same with Ruth. How do you judge a guy like him? His numbers are astronomical but it wasn’t really the same sport. It’s impossible to try and put it in in perspective with modern times.
 
#697
#697
zjcvols said:
Wilt was really good in his final couple years so I think that’s fair.

The issue with Wilt is the same with Ruth. How do you judge a guy like him? His numbers are astronomical but it wasn’t really the same sport. It’s impossible to try and put it in in perspective with modern times.
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I agree, but that's not what I'm talking about, I saw your original post about Jordan scoring with his D..... Still, Wilt would have been a dominant center in any era. At the same level, scoring a hundred in a game and averaging 20+ rebounds and 40+ points a game ? No, but still an all-NBA player that would be one of the most coveted free agents in the game.
 
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