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Septic said:
Are recently passed Georgia voting laws oppressive or justifiable?

Why the Georgia G.O.P.’s Voting Rollbacks Will Hit Black People Hard

http://seattlemedium.com/georgias-n...st-atlanta-the-mlb-all-star-game-200-million/

What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does

Voter Suppression

It's fascinating for me to watch people balk at and try and spin what should be obvious. Do you think these new laws are a coincidence to a deep red state turning blue?
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Those articles just parrot already debunked ideas. Pretty sure every one claimed it criminalized handing out food or drinks. Violent and barbaric? Seriously?

States are turning blue because people are stupid, lazy and believe articles like the ones you linked without doing any research. Many blue states have more restrictive voting regs yet they aren't being single out. Wonder why that would be
 
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Septic said:
Are recently passed Georgia voting laws oppressive or justifiable?

Why the Georgia G.O.P.’s Voting Rollbacks Will Hit Black People Hard

http://seattlemedium.com/georgias-n...st-atlanta-the-mlb-all-star-game-200-million/

What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does

Voter Suppression

It's fascinating for me to watch people balk at and try and spin what should be obvious. Do you think these new laws are a coincidence to a deep red state turning blue?
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Kudos for making sure you had the correct state. @Vol Main fixated on Alabama for some stupid reason.
 
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Those articles just parrot already debunked ideas. Pretty sure every one claimed it criminalized handing out food or drinks. Violent and barbaric? Seriously?

States are turning blue because people are stupid, lazy and believe articles like the ones you linked without doing any research. Many blue states have more restrictive voting regs yet they aren't being single out. Wonder why that would be
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"debunked", that's laughable. I'm not suggesting that each and every clutched pearl is the suppression tactic some may make it out to be but the overarching theme produced by the laws made by the right, are largely designed to hinder voters from the left.

Or do you think the this legislation was just a coincidence?
 
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"debunked", that's laughable. I'm not suggesting that each and every clutched pearl is the suppression tactic some may make it out to be but the overarching theme produced by the laws made by the right, are largely designed to hinder voters from the left.

Or do you think the this legislation was just a coincidence?
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A “theme” isn’t the truth. Luther got his ass handed to him yesterday by insisting the GA bill did something it didn’t.
 
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"debunked", that's laughable. I'm not suggesting that each and every clutched pearl is the suppression tactic some may make it out to be but the overarching theme produced by the laws made by the right, are largely designed to hinder voters from the left.

Or do you think the this legislation was just a coincidence?
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Which ones are actually anything more than a minute inconvenience for what should be an important and thoughtful act? Most I've seen being used were just eliminating special changes made to accommodate voting in a pandemic
 
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A “theme” isn’t the truth. Luther got his ass handed to him yesterday by insisting the GA bill did something it didn’t.
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@evillawyer and @Vol Main can speak for themselves, I'm not sure why you're bringing them up with me. Nonetheless, was any of the legislation designed to make voting easier or less burdensome for Americans?

Before I'm labeled a libtard supreme, I fully support having to produced government issued ID's to vote. Hell, if it were up to me, I'd make entry into a polling place a copy of a tax return. It still doesn't change the fact that the legislation is a knee jerk to make sure what happened in 2020 doesn't happen again in 2024.
 
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Which ones are actually anything more than a minute inconvenience for what should be an important and thoughtful act? Most I've seen being used were just eliminating special changes made to accommodate voting in a pandemic
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I suppose oppression, suppression and inconvenience are all subjective terms, more so when you include adjectives like minute, important and thoughtful. I also suspect they're less important to people who aren't the ones who have to deal with the "inconvenience." Intentional disenfranchisement by ones government (however "minute"), I suspect, can be a powerful tool to dissuade confidence in the system. Perhaps however, the blowback will empower those who feel oppressed to fight back.
 
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Septic said:
I suppose oppression, suppression and inconvenience are all subjective terms, more so when you include adjectives like minute, important and thoughtful. I also suspect they're less important to people who aren't the ones who have to deal with the "inconvenience." Intentional disenfranchisement by ones government (however "minute"), I suspect, can be a powerful tool to dissuade confidence in the system. Perhaps however, the blowback will empower those who feel oppressed to fight back.
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Which ones? Ambiguity seems to be a very useful tool in this debate when it shouldn't be. Can people still drink water and vote at the same time or has that right been violently removed (as per your rolling stone link)?

A lot of confidence in the system was reduced by blanket mail in voting. So if there are new regs to correct that shouldn't they be applauded? These were supposed to be special circumstances not change the entire system forever
 
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@evillawyer and @Vol Main can speak for themselves, I'm not sure why you're bringing them up with me. Nonetheless, was any of the legislation designed to make voting easier or less burdensome for Americans?

Before I'm labeled a libtard supreme, I fully support having to produced government issued ID's to vote. Hell, if it were up to me, I'd make entry into a polling place a copy of a tax return. It still doesn't change the fact that the legislation is a knee jerk to make sure what happened in 2020 doesn't happen again in 2024.
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Your just trying to keep Donald from getting to vote.
 
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@evillawyer and @Vol Main can speak for themselves, I'm not sure why you're bringing them up with me. Nonetheless, was any of the legislation designed to make voting easier or less burdensome for Americans?

Before I'm labeled a libtard supreme, I fully support having to produced government issued ID's to vote. Hell, if it were up to me, I'd make entry into a polling place a copy of a tax return. It still doesn't change the fact that the legislation is a knee jerk to make sure what happened in 2020 doesn't happen again in 2024.
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The new voter laws respond to the continual pack of lies from Donald Trump and his followers, alleging that he won the election he lost, that the 2020 Election was stolen. That's the word he uses. So the laws respond to concerns which are hardly real. Voting fraud did not decide the 2020 Election. Let me be clear; I present I.D. before being asked when I vote at a polling place. I think everyone should. But having gone through the motor voter registration and vote by mail processes, I am satisfied that the both are sound. I know that I.D. is definitely required to vote in Tennessee. I also think that the purpose of new voting laws passed by Republican majority legislatures is to pander to Trump supporters whom he misled, suppress voting by the Democratic opposition, and to enable legislatures to overthrow future elections. Of course, the new laws vary from state to state. They are not all the same. Some are surely better than others.
 
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Vol Main said:
The new voter laws respond to the continual pack of lies from Donald Trump and his followers alleging that he won the election he lost, that the 2020 election was stolen. That's the word he uses. Let me be clear; I present I.D. when I vote before being asked. I think everyone should. But having gone through the motor voter registration and vote by mail processes, I am satisfied that the process is sound. I.D. is definitely required to vote in Tennessee. I also believe that the purpose of new voting laws passed by Republican majority legislatures is to suppress voting by the Democratic opposition and to enable legislatures to overthrow future elections. Of course, the new laws vary from state to state. They are not all the same. Some are surely better than others.
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Specifically, which ones suppress voting by Dems?
 
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Vol Main said:
The new voter laws respond to the continual pack of lies from Donald Trump and his followers, alleging that he won the election he lost, that the 2020 Election was stolen. That's the word he uses. So the laws respond to concerns which are hardly real. Voting fraud did not decide the 2020 Election. Let me be clear; I present I.D. before being asked when I vote at a polling place. I think everyone should. But having gone through the motor voter registration and vote by mail processes, I am satisfied that the both are sound. I know that I.D. is definitely required to vote in Tennessee. I also think that the purpose of new voting laws passed by Republican majority legislatures is to pander to Trump supporters whom he misled, suppress voting by the Democratic opposition, and to enable legislatures to overthrow future elections. Of course, the new laws vary from state to state. They are not all the same. Some are surely better than others.
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Lol, you believe the grassy knoll shooter?
 
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"debunked", that's laughable. I'm not suggesting that each and every clutched pearl is the suppression tactic some may make it out to be but the overarching theme produced by the laws made by the right, are largely designed to hinder voters from the left.

Or do you think the this legislation was just a coincidence?
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You do realize that the BLUEST of all the news channels (MSNBC) has now come out and said that BIdden was lying about suppressive voting times don't you? You are supporting the very mis-information process that you hated so badly about Trump. Both political parties and all the news media are treating people like a bunch of chumps. This mis-information crap is going to spiral out of control and have people at each other's throats for false reasons.
 
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utvolpj said:
Specifically, which ones suppress voting by Dems?
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You're asking for specific details. I do not want to disrespect your question because I think it is right to focus on the details, so I'll try to get back to you. But I'm pressed for time with a few other things right now.
 
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Vol Main said:
You're asking for specific details. I do not want to disrespect your question because I think it is right to focus on the details, so I'll try to get back to you. But I'm pressed for time with a few other things right now.
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One would think they were easy to detail given their egregious nature
 
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[QUOTE="utvolpj, Ah, the lunch rush. I understand


I did not say lunch rush. If you just want to be cute with silly insults, you'll have to do that without me. Not interested.
 
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Vol Main said:
[QUOTE="utvolpj, Ah, the lunch rush. I understand


I did not say lunch rush. If you just want to be cute with silly insults, you'll have to do that without me. Not interested.
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Give me a break. You go long winded on how this will suppress votes but can't offer even a single example. But she, go google some articles, form an opinion and come back when you have something
 
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Septic said:
@evillawyer and @Vol Main can speak for themselves, I'm not sure why you're bringing them up with me. Nonetheless, was any of the legislation designed to make voting easier or less burdensome for Americans?

Before I'm labeled a libtard supreme, I fully support having to produced government issued ID's to vote. Hell, if it were up to me, I'd make entry into a polling place a copy of a tax return. It still doesn't change the fact that the legislation is a knee jerk to make sure what happened in 2020 doesn't happen again in 2024.
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To the 2 bolded points:

1. If we are talking about GA law then here are some things that were designed to make voting easier - a) early voting was expanded and is longer than quite a few blue states; b) the use of drop boxes for absentee ballots is officially allowed by law (was an emergency exemption in 2020); c) any precinct where lines are longer than an hour mandates the opening of additional facilities for those voters.

2. Some of the free for all choices made in the pandemic shouldn't happen again or at least should be written into law. So the drop box which wasn't allowed before 2020 but was exempted in for the pandemic is now officially allowed.
 
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utvolpj said:
Give me a break. You go long winded on how this will suppress votes but can't offer even a single example. But she, go google some articles, form an opinion and come back when you have something
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I told you I am pressed for time, and you think I have time for your juvenile comments. I don't.
 
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Vol Main said:
I told you I am pressed for time, and you think I have time for your juvenile comments. I don't.
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Not so pressed you couldn't knock out quite a few useless paragraphs about how bad it is without offering one specific. An educated opinion would have specific examples
 
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