The disney insanity continues

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luthervol said:
You just really don't get it. Businesses doing business in/with FL had to make a choice when they FL made a political decision with which they strongly disagreed. No longer doing business in FL would be beyond extreme in this circumstance. They thought voicing their disagreement with the policy was the appropriate action.
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Which can alienate a portion of your customer base which goes back to the question that started it. Most could have easily taken no side and nobody would have cared. Has there been a twitter campaign for or against UPS because they haven't voiced an opinion on the bill? Why hasn't UPS spoken up about the Florida bill legislating what teachers can talk about!

And isn't this in response to the "Don't say gay" bill? I'm not sure where abortion is entering this discussion.
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It could be anything. The Florida bill, Roe vs Wade, gun rights.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Chick Fil-A, Target, McDonalds and Disney are not in the business of public education or family planning, therefore they shouldn’t comment on proposed legislation about those particular issues.
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I don't think anyone is saying that.

Only that it may not be a smart business decision to do so when you're not forced to.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Chick Fil-A, Target, McDonalds and Disney are not in the business of public education or family planning, therefore they shouldn’t comment on proposed legislation about those particular issues.

Let’s apply that same criteria to individuals.

Individuals who have children in elementary school, or are actively in the process of starting a family (or growing their family) should be the only people allowed to voice an opinion on abortion or school curriculum.
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You enjoy jumping sharks, don't you.

Why do Chick Fil-A, Target, McDonald's, Disney, or any corporation need to comment on proposed legislation that doesn't directly effect them or their profit margin? I'm not saying they can't, but what's the point? Ultimately, they're just pissing off a portion of people that could be potential customers. And for what? If the CEO of Disney wants to come out and say something, why not do it as an individual rather than making it a corporate statement? I just don't see the point of dragging your business into it. I mean, did they poll every shareholder and make sure it was a consensus opinion? It just doesn't make sense to me.

But they certainly shouldn't be punished for doing it. That, I'll agree with. I just think it's dumb to get involved as a corporation.

I'm all for people speaking their minds, but do it as individuals. JMO
 
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"Disney is going to have to live under the same laws that that everybody else has to live under in Florida. Disney will pay it's fair share of taxes, and Disney is going to be responsible for all the debt it has racked up." DeSantis has slammed the so called "happiest place on Earth" for sexualizing children through it's content. Disney has lost nearly 63 Billion dollars in market capitalization.

DeSantis: Disney Does Not Run Florida
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
"Disney is going to have to live under the same laws that that everybody else has to live under in Florida. Disney will pay it's fair share of taxes, and Disney is going to be responsible for all the debt it has racked up." DeSantis has slammed the so called "happiest place on Earth" for sexualizing children through it's content. Disney has lost nearly 63 Billion dollars in market capitalization.

DeSantis: Disney Does Not Run Florida
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Seeing as how they currently pay double taxes, "Living under the same laws as everyone else" would mean a savings of $100 million/year

They're already paying their debt

Tesla has lost $200 billion in market cap over the same time period

DeSantis still hasn't returned the $100k donation Disney gave him or the $5 million his largest supporter gave him (he has publicly stated his concern on how DeSantis has handled the Disney issue).
 
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volfanhill said:
Our CEO is stepping down in two months. He said it was bc he can't do the politics anymore. Basically the Gov and public acting like they want business to care about shat that's irrelevant to them Was pissing him off. I agree. Not a businesses job
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Which state do you live?
 
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Wireless1 said:
You can manipulate stats and the books all you want to make things palatable. Every service that Disney directly provided that could have been taxpayer provided cost Disney less providing it directly. The county would increase the valuation of the Disney property to increase their tax revenue, or implement a "visitor tax" for tickets. And despite the fact that the government most often chooses the low bidder, we all know the government rarely choses the most cost effective solution..... if nothing else they saved the payola on each job.
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I used to work in government healthcare. Once the states privatized because they wrecked it they most often went with the lowest contract not necessarily the best services. It would come back to bite often.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I used to work in government healthcare. Once the states privatized because they wrecked it they most often went with the lowest contract not necessarily the best services. It would come back to bite often.
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The only government health care that went private causing a disaster was mental health.
 
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volbound1700 said:
By the way, I love how you keep stating "Stay Classy" when you were the first person to start mocking me with condescending posts earlier. Look in the mirror.
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Yeah when you said “Disney is the only game in town” in an area with about a half dozen parks within a 20 minute drive from Disney, you were begging to be mocked.

I’ll try to be more classy towards your misinformed posts in the future. 😂
 
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volbound1700 said:
Apparently you are pretty clueless but what I can expect from a gator fan.

Disney basically has a unique monopoly on theme parks for Kids 0-10. No one in the area can compete for that group on the level of Disney. Sea World and Universal don't check that box like Magic Kingdom.

I know Six Flags tried to do the Looney Tune characters to compete with the Cartoony Characters of Disney but that never took off. Nintendo and maybe... maybe Nickelodeon are the only companies out there.

Mario can compete with Mickey Mouse when it comes to iconic, cartoony characters that young kids can love.
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Dude.
 
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AshG said:
Land in Orlando, put on a blindfold, throw a rock, and I almost guarantee you'll hit a family friendly attraction that isn't Disney owned or operated.
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Just the idea that they would have a geographic monopoly if there weren't other resorts nearby. People don't go to Disney World because of where it's located geographically. They go to Disney World because it's an attraction that inspires people to travel thousands of miles.
 
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Weezer said:
You enjoy jumping sharks, don't you.

Why do Chick Fil-A, Target, McDonald's, Disney, or any corporation need to comment on proposed legislation that doesn't directly effect them or their profit margin? I'm not saying they can't, but what's the point? Ultimately, they're just pissing off a portion of people that could be potential customers. And for what? If the CEO of Disney wants to come out and say something, why not do it as an individual rather than making it a corporate statement? I just don't see the point of dragging your business into it. I mean, did they poll every shareholder and make sure it was a consensus opinion? It just doesn't make sense to me.

But they certainly shouldn't be punished for doing it. That, I'll agree with. I just think it's dumb to get involved as a corporation.

I'm all for people speaking their minds, but do it as individuals. JMO
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Just provide the product/service/entertainment. No need for comments or political views. Take the Jordan stance... Republicans buy my shoes too.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Fair enough.
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That is why you won't see me defending them with this. Give an opinion, make a phone call... Whatever. They are within their rights. Vow to take actions against the elected reps, this is the consequence and I couldn't care less if they lose the exemptions.

Also on another point, if universal, sea world, Busch gardens, etc does not get a similar perk, it's about time to square that up. If that meant giving those operators the exemptions or removing all exemptions, so be it. It would be inconsequential to me policy wise. Disney's florida resident price is **** these days anyways. Lol.
 
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utvols88 said:
That is why you won't see me defending them with this. Give an opinion, make a phone call... Whatever. They are within their rights. Vow to take actions against the elected reps, this is the consequence and I couldn't care less if they lose the exemptions.

Also on another point, if universal, sea world, Busch gardens, etc does not get a similar perk, it's about time to square that up. If that meant giving those operators the exemptions or removing all exemptions, so be it. It would be inconsequential to me policy wise. Disney's florida resident price is **** these days anyways. Lol.
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Another fair point. 😂

When I moved to Orlando 30 years ago, a Florida resident annual pass with about a half dozen seasonal blackout dates cost around $120.
 
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utvols88 said:
That is why you won't see me defending them with this. Give an opinion, make a phone call... Whatever. They are within their rights. Vow to take actions against the elected reps, this is the consequence and I couldn't care less if they lose the exemptions.

Also on another point, if universal, sea world, Busch gardens, etc does not get a similar perk, it's about time to square that up. If that meant giving those operators the exemptions or removing all exemptions, so be it. It would be inconsequential to me policy wise. Disney's florida resident price is **** these days anyways. Lol.
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Actions against reps? What actions?

Also, I would say repealing a law barely qualifies as dictating the law. It's a statement saying "this terrible bill will not dictate the law."
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Another fair point. 😂

When I moved to Orlando 30 years ago, a Florida resident annual pass with about a half dozen seasonal blackout dates cost around $120.
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But is the resident price really that bad? Inflation makes $120 = $245 and then think about 30 years of improvement and better attractions. I mean, wouldn't you have paid $195 back in 1992 for a much better park system? Hell, people would've paid $195 just to do the Avatar ride.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/passholder-program/benefits-of-becoming-a-passholder/
 
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utvols88 said:
That is why you won't see me defending them with this. Give an opinion, make a phone call... Whatever. They are within their rights. Vow to take actions against the elected reps, this is the consequence and I couldn't care less if they lose the exemptions.

Also on another point, if universal, sea world, Busch gardens, etc does not get a similar perk, it's about time to square that up. If that meant giving those operators the exemptions or removing all exemptions, so be it. It would be inconsequential to me policy wise. Disney's florida resident price is **** these days anyways. Lol.
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You're right, Universal and others don't have the "perk" of double taxation. "Squaring this up" would cost about $100 mil/year for taxpayers.

Universal gets millions in these laughable "high crime" tax breaks because they supposedly built in a poor area.
 
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