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#52
#52
VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Outside of the typical response of they aren't American, RHINO's, they are communist.

Why are there Republican politicians supporting Biden/Harris?
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Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
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Why would there be such an effort within an incumbent's party to sabotage re election?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If you missed Michelle Obama's speech last night, it's no biggie, since Melania is scheduled to speak during the RNC next week.
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I read an article somewhere that said her staff was going to try really hard to not copy another speech this year.

I think Melania is probably a saint, she has put up with drumpf.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
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This is true. And I only have seen bits and pieces and read about last night's speeches, but I do think that the Dems are borrowing a page from the GOP's playbook four years ago. They are making it all negative. Its all about defeating Trump, not as much about electing Biden. Was the same in '16: the GOP rallied against an unpopular persons in HRC and overlooked shortcomings in Trump to do it. Same here: Trump is so universally loathed that the Dem campaign is just going to be attacking him. I'd say its got a fair chance of working.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is true. And I only have seen bits and pieces and read about last night's speeches, but I do think that the Dems are borrowing a page from the GOP's playbook four years ago. They are making it all negative. Its all about defeating Trump, not as much about electing Biden. Was the same in '16: the GOP rallied against an unpopular persons in HRC and overlooked shortcomings in Trump to do it. Same here: Trump is so universally loathed that the Dem campaign is just going to be attacking him. I'd say its got a fair chance of working.
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Yes, but it would be a mistake to just focus on Trump's behavior and character. They need to focus more on his policies.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is true. And I only have seen bits and pieces and read about last night's speeches, but I do think that the Dems are borrowing a page from the GOP's playbook four years ago. They are making it all negative. Its all about defeating Trump, not as much about electing Biden. Was the same in '16: the GOP rallied against an unpopular persons in HRC and overlooked shortcomings in Trump to do it. Same here: Trump is so universally loathed that the Dem campaign is just going to be attacking him. I'd say its got a fair chance of working.
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As long as the civil unrest can stay off the front page and not distract the voters from the message at the DNC. Continuing to keep in play the negative campaign can work for the time being, but the left can't blame Trump for any and all civil unrest currently taking place and expect the required votes from the moderates to continue believing that BS.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, but it would be a mistake to just focus on Trump's behavior and character. They need to focus more on his policies.
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The thing that most easily resonates is his response to Covid. They are going to take all the video of him downplaying the virus and shove it up his enormous fat butt. And that criticism of him will have traction because it is absolutely true. Trump will be on the run the entire period between now and then, and he'll have to lie to try to dodge his mismanagement of it, which will further exacerbate the problem for him.

Basically, he has caged himself in with his lies. They are so deep and he has repeated them so many times that he is stuck trying to defend crap that everyone knows is not true.
 
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#63
tennvols77 said:
Coming from someone who has had it so well for so long, on the back of hubby's "public service".....she is so far removed from the struggle it is comical to hear her speak of anything other than cocktail parties and fundraisers.
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Strange to criticize a speech that emphasizes and literally defines empathy because the speaker doesn’t live the struggle she describes...

She identified key issues faced by many of the people I deal with. It was pretty spot-on and empathetic. Also, it was a good opening to the Biden convention because he’s running on empathy and a return to mutual respect and she turned that into a cornerstone of a vision of American exceptionalism.

It was a solid speech. Not “best speech of our generation,” like I had seen elsewhere, but it was really good.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
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The Uni-party is showing their hand
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Trumps emotional platform has brought politics away from policy. It would be smart for trump to continue this he dosen't have the experience or knowledge to start with policy now.
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In the recent stump speeches and campaign ads that I've seen, Trump is going back to the fear-mongering well, once again. You can expect to hear more rhetoric regarding "low income housing moving to the suburbs," as an attempted appeal to white voters with college degrees, who Trump has been struggling with. Trump might as well be shouting "I WILL KEEP N***ERS OUT OF YOUR SUBDIVISION!" into a bullhorn, but I guess that's still referred to as "dog whistling". Trump's shtick revolves around the division of identity politics and race-baiting. Trump appeals to the lowest common denominators of his base - white resentment and fear. However, this tends to work best with the uneducated, not with the people he needs more support from this election. Trump is getting killed with white women who have a college degree.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
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I doubt you ever see him speaking at the RNC either frankly. At this point he’s probably better off getting onto the Lincoln Project grifter payday trying to sell himself as some kind of know better holier than thou true Republican. Outcome will be the same but at least he will have a grifter payday.
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
It's still hypocrital l but please read the last two paragraphs.

"The Obama administration separated migrant children from families under certain limited circumstances, like when the child’s safety appeared at risk or when the parent had a serious criminal history.

But family separations as a matter of routine came about because of Trump’s “zero tolerance” enforcement policy, which he eventually suspended because of the uproar. Obama had no such policy."
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Trump eventually suspended that policy. What's the issue today?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because they don't like Trump? I don't think you will ever see John Kasich speaking during the DNC again. Nor will you ever see an attack campaign from within the same party, as well-funded as the Lincoln Project is. This is a protest movement exclusive to removing one specific candidate from office.
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Yeah, all those bogus investigations didn’t go anywhere so they have to create chaos in Dim owned cities that none of them condemn and use scare tactics about a virus that has killed as many they make you believe. Plus, Epstein didn’t kill himself.
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
It's still hypocrital l but please read the last two paragraphs.

"The Obama administration separated migrant children from families under certain limited circumstances, like when the child’s safety appeared at risk or when the parent had a serious criminal history.

But family separations as a matter of routine came about because of Trump’s “zero tolerance” enforcement policy, which he eventually suspended because of the uproar. Obama had no such policy."
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Trump eventually suspended that policy. What's the issue today?
VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Outside of the typical response of they aren't American, RHINO's, they are communist.

Why are there Republican politicians supporting Biden/Harris?
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They hate Trump
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Outside of the typical response of they aren't American, RHINO's, they are communist.

Why are there Republican politicians supporting Biden/Harris?
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Why would a republican support Trump other than party loyalty?

And I don't mean in a Biden vs Trump way. I just mean overall why is he the one to lead the party
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, but it would be a mistake to just focus on Trump's behavior and character. They need to focus more on his policies.
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Here’s my 2 cents .. the Dems better focus on or come up with some policy that gets people’s attention on the other side of November, this virus play will eventually end and when the curtain comes down , somebody either party better be ready for Act -1 scene -1 . We (as a populous ) are going to be out of money , businesses are going to be shut down and unemployment will continue to be through the roof . I think the liberals are only and I mean only focused on one goal . Promising or even making free education/ health care possible , will not help the 800 pound gorilla sitting in the room . If you don’t come up with some meaningful solutions we will be back here in 4 years or 8 and the left will loose all majority plus the Oval Office . ( IMO)
 
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