The drug use an explanation for why....

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#26
Some players probably do better after smoking some weed. It should be legalized!
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Do you believe everything you read?
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Of course not. If I did, then Facebook would have already convinced me that the H1N1 vaccine was a conspiracy by our government and that it would cause everything from Autism to paralysis. So far, all it has accomplished is a drastic decrease in the number of swine flu cases and mortality.

The peer-reviewed and medically-sound evidence is convincing: there are numerous ill effects of THC use. Is it as "dangerous" as some other illegal drugs? No. But, has it been shown to affect the CNS, lungs, and heart? The answer is a resounding "yes."

I know this is a touchy subject, as many posters use MJ on a regular basis. However, it should be a decision made with clear understanding of both the medical and legal risks one incurs.

On a personal note, I have also witnessed the effects of MJ use in friends, patients, and family members. By no means do I consider myself a blind, closed-minded physician, but the ill-effects are quite clear to me.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Actually, chronic MJ smoking can have a number of harmful effects on the body, most notably on the heart and lungs. The popular notion that MJ smoke is free of carcinogens has been debunked, and the evidence is clear in the medical literature.

Of course, the most common problems caused by THC use are found in the CNS: "Amotivational Syndrome," anxiety, depression, memory impairment, and schizophrenia.

Of course, many people will relay a story of some brilliant friend who scored a 36 on his ACT and now studies at Harvard as "proof" that MJ is safe. But, this is the exception, not the rule. The evidence is very convincing that there are numerous adverse effects. To say that chronic MJ use would not affect an athlete's performance is, quite simply, preposterous.
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Ever heard of a vaporizer. Healthy my friend. And I gueSs we shouldn't let them eat candy either? Carmelo, Lebron, A I, K-mart, all the big boys blaze. Your crazy. Save all that mumbo jumbo reefer madness crap for someone else. Its an HERB, much healthier than your COCA-COlA or cheeseburger. The constitution of the US was printed on MJ paper, and G-dub and all the founding fathers grew it. It was actually required that you grow it in cases. It was outlawed due to a bureocratic fiasco involving the former Prohibition squad and a powerful San Fran Sisco newspaper owner.who just so happened to own masses of land with TIMBER, when MJ threatens to cripple his Newspaper-timber money train, he lobbied with Aslinger to form the DEA out of what was the Liquor crew. (After all, we've got all these people with jobs and liquor is legal again. Hmmm)End of story. Till the 80's when it got super crazy and was criminalized- WOW
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kiddiedoc said:
Of course not. If I did, then Facebook would have already convinced me that the H1N1 vaccine was a conspiracy by our government and that it would cause everything from Autism to paralysis. So far, all it has accomplished is a drastic decrease in the number of swine flu cases and mortality.

The peer-reviewed and medically-sound evidence is convincing: there are numerous ill effects of THC use. Is it as "dangerous" as some other illegal drugs? No. But, has it been shown to affect the CNS, lungs, and heart? The answer is a resounding "yes."

I know this is a touchy subject, as many posters use MJ on a regular basis. However, it should be a decision made with clear understanding of both the medical and legal risks one incurs.

On a personal note, I have also witnessed the effects of MJ use in friends, patients, and family members. By no means do I consider myself a blind, closed-minded physician, but the ill-effects are quite clear to me.
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The fact that you support the H1N1 vaccine tells me all I need to know. Good luck with all that. No Vaccines at all = Healthy.
All the vaccines available= sick all the f*n time. Do the math Doc?
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It depends on the individual as far as how pot affects motor skills and motivation. Alcohol is widely consumed by athletes ... and does a greater number (no pun in tended) on general health -- hangovers, nausea, etc. The fact that the pot charges may be reduced to misdemeanors is indicative of how less seriously it has come to be viewed. All college basketball programs surely have at least a few pot heads who play exceptionally well.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
The fact that you support the H1N1 vaccine tells me all I need to know. Good luck with all that. No Vaccines at all = Healthy.
All the vaccines available= sick all the f*n time. Do the math Doc?
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All you need to know is that I have spent 21 years in school and 9 years practicing medicine, reading, and seeing with my own eyes the effects of illness, medications, and vaccines. If you think that "No Vaccines at all = Healthy," then perhaps you should ask someone a little older than you about the suffering people endured during the days of Polio, Haemophilus influenza type B, Measles, neonatal Hepatitis B, Diphtheria, Tetanus. . . .and even more recently with invasive Streptococcus pneumoniae infection. How many cases reports of H1N1 deaths have you read? How many parents have you spoken with who have lost children to vaccine-preventable diseases? How much legitimate science do even understand regarding vaccines and their production?

The facts are clear: vaccines are EXCEPTIONALLY safe and prevent potentially-lethal diseases with great efficacy.

Do you remember all the hype in the media and on the internet regarding concerns with H1N1 safety? Guess what: the vaccine is made the same way as the seasonal flu vaccine, which has a great record, and there have been no more adverse events reported than with the seasonal flu vaccine -- which explains why you haven't heard any of the uneducated morons spewing unfounded concerns, as of late. You want more? Cases of novel H1N1 have fallen dramatically since the vaccine's distribution, as have pediatric deaths (225 this season already, more than double the "normal" yearly average).

OK, now tell me more about YOU that makes you more qualified to discuss the vaccine than me.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
All you need to know is that I have spent 21 years in school and 9 years practicing medicine, reading, and seeing with my own eyes the effects of illness, medications, and vaccines. If you think that "No Vaccines at all = Healthy," then perhaps you should ask someone a little older than you about the suffering people endured during the days of Polio, Haemophilus influenza type B, Measles, neonatal Hepatitis B, Diphtheria, Tetanus. . . .and even more recently with invasive Streptococcus pneumoniae infection. How many cases reports of H1N1 deaths have you read? How many parents have you spoken with who have lost children to vaccine-preventable diseases? How much legitimate science do even understand regarding vaccines and their production?

The facts are clear: vaccines are EXCEPTIONALLY safe and prevent potentially-lethal diseases with great efficacy.

Do you remember all the hype in the media and on the internet regarding concerns with H1N1 safety? Guess what: the vaccine is made the same way as the seasonal flu vaccine, which has a great record, and there have been no more adverse events reported than with the seasonal flu vaccine -- which explains why you haven't heard any of the uneducated morons spewing unfounded concerns, as of late. You want more? Cases of novel H1N1 have fallen dramatically since the vaccine's distribution, as have pediatric deaths (225 this season already, more than double the "normal" yearly average).

OK, now tell me more about YOU that makes you more qualified to discuss the vaccine than me.
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Haha, no thanks to you and your vaccines. Keep sticking people with diseases though, if that's what floats your boat. You didn't mention the Tuskegee Experiment in your above term paper, wonder why? I know about Malaria ridden blankets and men being witheld knowledge that would stop their painful,agonizing deaths. Enough for me to know I want no part of anyones needles. I can only speak for my family and myself, but we don't have vacc, and were healthy. I've never had a flu shot, and I've never had the flu. Don't need 30 years of school to figure that one out.
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Orangekush423 said:
Haha, no thanks to you and your vaccines. Keep sticking people with diseases though, if that's what floats your boat. You didn't mention the Tuskegee Experiment in your above term paper, wonder why? I know about Malaria ridden blankets and men being witheld knowledge that would stop their painful,agonizing deaths. Enough for me to know I want no part of anyones needles. I can only speak for my family and myself, but we don't have vacc, and were healthy. I've never had a flu shot, and I've never had the flu. Don't need 30 years of school to figure that one out.
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To credit the brilliant scientists and doctors that have dedicated their lives to the preservation of ours: they aren't "my" vaccines.

Keep drinking the conspiracy-theory punch, and I'll keep watching kids not die.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
I can only speak for my family and myself, but we don't have vacc, and were healthy.
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Well, then, the rest of us owe you a "you're welcome" for providing herd immunity. My advice: don't travel to countries where vaccine coverage is short. The only death I have witnessed from a vaccine-preventable disease was in an unimmunized child from Mexico who contracted measles. My older partner, OTOH, witnessed many cases of HiB before the vaccine was introduced.
 
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Originally Posted by Orangekush423
"Haha, no thanks to you and your vaccines. Keep sticking people with diseases though, if that's what floats your boat. You didn't mention the Tuskegee Experiment in your above term paper, wonder why? I know about Malaria ridden blankets and men being witheld knowledge that would stop their painful,agonizing deaths. Enough for me to know I want no part of anyones needles. I can only speak for my family and myself, but we don't have vacc, and were healthy. I've never had a flu shot, and I've never had the flu. Don't need 30 years of school to figure that one out."


I've never had HIV but I still use condoms. Its great that you've never had the flu, and also happen to have never gotten a flu shot, but don't get all Tom Cruise and try to preach the dangers of medication to a doctor. You may not need 30 years of school (he stated he had 21 years of school, 9 practice, not 30 years of school) to know that you haven't been sick, but maybe if you had gone to school, you might have a clue as to what you're talking about. But then again, who needs school when you can be blissfully ignorant right?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
All you need to know is that I have spent 21 years in school and 9 years practicing medicine, reading, and seeing with my own eyes the effects of illness, medications, and vaccines. If you think that "No Vaccines at all = Healthy," then perhaps you should ask someone a little older than you about the suffering people endured during the days of Polio, Haemophilus influenza type B, Measles, neonatal Hepatitis B, Diphtheria, Tetanus. . . .and even more recently with invasive Streptococcus pneumoniae infection. How many cases reports of H1N1 deaths have you read? How many parents have you spoken with who have lost children to vaccine-preventable diseases? How much legitimate science do even understand regarding vaccines and their production?

The facts are clear: vaccines are EXCEPTIONALLY safe and prevent potentially-lethal diseases with great efficacy.

Do you remember all the hype in the media and on the internet regarding concerns with H1N1 safety? Guess what: the vaccine is made the same way as the seasonal flu vaccine, which has a great record, and there have been no more adverse events reported than with the seasonal flu vaccine -- which explains why you haven't heard any of the uneducated morons spewing unfounded concerns, as of late. You want more? Cases of novel H1N1 have fallen dramatically since the vaccine's distribution, as have pediatric deaths (225 this season already, more than double the "normal" yearly average).

OK, now tell me more about YOU that makes you more qualified to discuss the vaccine than me.
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You don't honestly put flu shots on the same level as Polio and Measles vaccines do you? Those are totally different.
 
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growski82 said:
Originally Posted by Orangekush423
"Haha, no thanks to you and your vaccines. Keep sticking people with diseases though, if that's what floats your boat. You didn't mention the Tuskegee Experiment in your above term paper, wonder why? I know about Malaria ridden blankets and men being witheld knowledge that would stop their painful,agonizing deaths. Enough for me to know I want no part of anyones needles. I can only speak for my family and myself, but we don't have vacc, and were healthy. I've never had a flu shot, and I've never had the flu. Don't need 30 years of school to figure that one out."


I've never had HIV but I still use condoms. Its great that you've never had the flu, and also happen to have never gotten a flu shot, but don't get all Tom Cruise and try to preach the dangers of medication to a doctor. You may not need 30 years of school (he stated he had 21 years of school, 9 practice, not 30 years of school) to know that you haven't been sick, but maybe if you had gone to school, you might have a clue as to what you're talking about. But then again, who needs school when you can be blissfully ignorant right?
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Ignorance is the lack if knowledge, I'm actually pretty knowledgable ab my health. A better example of ignorance is your stated "knowledge" of my schooling. And its no coincidence that I haven't gotten the flu. A flu shot is just that, a shot that contains the flu. No thanks. Call me crazy all you want.
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#39
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its a well known fact Vince Young self medicated with marijuana in college while playing football. it slowed the game down for him. he tried to do the same in the nfl but it is at a different speed. He's getting closer to getting it down though
 
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Orangekush423 said:
A flu shot is just that, a shot that contains the flu. No thanks. Call me crazy all you want.
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OK: Crazy.

The above statement proves that you know nothing about the topic, so just leave it be. The "flu shot" actually contains NO flu virus.

Only the FluMist contains virus, and it has been attenuated to survive and replicate only at temperatures far below physiologic body temperatures.

Just a little info for those interested in learning.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
I know about Malaria ridden blankets
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Malaria is a blood borne disease spread by mosquitoes or blood transfer. It would not be spread by blankets.

Trust me, this is one of the few weird diseases I know about.

Smallpox maybe?
 
#42
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kiddiedoc,

I have been told exactly what you're saying. The number of deaths in vaccinated people is exceptionally small. At the same time, it's hard to hear the conspiracy theories and not second-guess the vaccines. I think they save lives.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
Ignorance is the lack if knowledge, I'm actually pretty knowledgable ab my health. A better example of ignorance is your stated "knowledge" of my schooling. And its no coincidence that I haven't gotten the flu. A flu shot is just that, a shot that contains the flu. No thanks. Call me crazy all you want.
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I would hope you would know whether or not you have been sick before, but you clearly have no idea what your talking about otherwise. When it comes to the flu and malaria and everything else health related, other than how many times youve been sick, you are ignorant. And unless I'm wrong about you going to medical school, then my "stated knowledge" of your schooling was dead on and not ignorant. Stick to topics that pertain to whatever it was you were educated about, leave the conspiracy crap at home.
 
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I am torn on the issue, most likely due to my lack of understanding about vaccines and the H1N1 in particular. I like to trust those with more understanding and education but am wary at the same time. I think I remember hearing that the H1N1 vaccine has a component that is the one thought to have brought on the illnesses so many suffered from after the first gulf war. As a doctor I was hoping you might be familiar with this and could give me some insight into this matter.

If this is not correct then please explain some of the medical professions thoughts on the possible causes of this "syndrome" and the varying symptoms so many have experienced.
 
#45
#45
In every large sample size, there are exceptions. For every million people who take a shot, one might have a fatal reaction. If you think about it, there are so many things we do every day that have the same freaky probabilities. Wearing a seatbelt is generally considered safe. However, there have been a few examples where a seatbelt caused a fatality in an accident. Every time I go to the chiropractor they warn me before cracking my neck in that fluid neck snapping motion. They tell me that there is something like a 1 in 10,000 chance that I could have stroke when they crack my neck. Every one of us eats solid food knowing that there is a very small chance that we could choke and die. I cant believe grown Americans still buy into some of these ridiculous conspiracies.
 
#46
#46
Here is the truth, some vaccines contain preservative agents that cause a negative interaction with a small sample of the people who take them. This group is smaller than the group who would be hurt if no one took the vaccine, and the mechanism whereby the individuals experience an adverse reaction is poorly understood. The medical community will sit on the truth for a very long time, because they understand that if all of the concerned parents stopped giving little Johnny his vaccines, we would all be worse off and more children would die than the amount who experience bad reactions today.

As happens in many cases, the truth will never be outed by scientists in medicine, the picture will be fully explained by the med mal bar as they continue to do discovery and sue over and over.

Causation is such a tricky thing. Lavender oil can give a boy breasts, and peanut butter is more of a carcinogen than many of the things we freak out about because of a Dateline report.
 
#48
#48
Kiddy, can you name the drug that helps allows your blood cells to accept the vaccine that is in the shots/vaccine?


Other guy, I think ppl who watch TV and drink soda are stupid.
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KB5252 said:
I am torn on the issue, most likely due to my lack of understanding about vaccines and the H1N1 in particular. I like to trust those with more understanding and education but am wary at the same time. I think I remember hearing that the H1N1 vaccine has a component that is the one thought to have brought on the illnesses so many suffered from after the first gulf war. As a doctor I was hoping you might be familiar with this and could give me some insight into this matter.

If this is not correct then please explain some of the medical professions thoughts on the possible causes of this "syndrome" and the varying symptoms so many have experienced.
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While I am not an expert on Gulf War Syndrome or biological warfare, I know that the Anthrax vaccine has been ruled out as a cause of the many ailments common in Gulf War participants. Most likely, the problems stem from an anticholinergic agent used to protect against "nerve gas" that was administered to soldiers or chemicals they were exposed to in the desert (in either weapons or pesticides). You must remember that soldiers from earlier wars experienced similar symptoms, so posttraumatic stress/psychiatric causes should also be considered.

On to the H1N1 vaccine: it is produced by the same manufacturers with the same methodologies employed in production of the "seasonal" flu vaccines. There is NO mercury in the pediatric formulation nor the FluMist, and the minute amount found in the adult multi-use vials has been deemed safe and NOT linked to neurological complications. In truth, it is the SAME VACCINE, just with a different virus strain linked to vaccine adjuvants.

Hope this helps.
 
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