The Early SEC Predicition Thread

#26
#26
GatorsGators said:
I'm picking them middle-of-the-pack, and as a bubble team. That's basically what they are every season. But 12th and 13th? They're better than that.
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They've been a legitimate bubble team 1 time in the last 6 years. I agree, even though I had them 12 iirc, that that may be a bit high for them. IMO south Carolina is gonna atleast be decent, i think Martin will help in his first season alone.

Maybe 10 is a bit more accurate, but I see no reason to really give ole miss and Kennedy too much credit or benefit o the doubt.
 
#27
#27
bleedingTNorange said:
They've been a legitimate bubble team 1 time in the last 6 years. I agree, even though I had them 12 iirc, that that may be a bit high for them. IMO south Carolina is gonna atleast be decent, i think Martin will help in his first season alone.

Maybe 10 is a bit more accurate, but I see no reason to really give ole miss and Kennedy too much credit or benefit o the doubt.
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They've made the NIT the past three years, iirc. Twice they were two seeds, and in both of those seasons they were a legitimate bubble team. They return four of five starters from last year (all except for Henry), and bring in a solid recruiting class consisting of two solid wings to replace Henry, and two JUCO's who can shoot the bell (one a stretch-four and the other a legitimate two). I'm not sure that they'll make the tournament, but I seriously doubt they'll finish below eighth in the SEC next year.
 
#28
#28
GatorsGators said:
They've made the NIT the past three years, iirc. Twice they were two seeds, and in both of those seasons they were a legitimate bubble team. They return four of five starters from last year (all except for Henry), and bring in a solid recruiting class consisting of two solid wings to replace Henry, and two JUCO's who can shoot the bell (one a stretch-four and the other a legitimate two). I'm not sure that they'll make the tournament, but I seriously doubt they'll finish below eighth in the SEC next year.
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They weren't a bubble team last year. They were nowhere close, as in not even one of the first 4-8 out.

The difference between 8th-10th place could simply be a tiebreak so yea it's possible. I see them being around .500 probably a game or 2 under IMO.
 
#30
#30
bleedingTNorange said:
They weren't a bubble team last year. They were nowhere close, as in not even one of the first 4-8 out.

The difference between 8th-10th place could simply be a tiebreak so yea it's possible. I see them being around .500 probably a game or 2 under IMO.
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A .500 team in-conference isn't going to be 10th in a 14-team conference...
 
#32
#32
bleedingTNorange said:
If you re read my last sentence I said AROUND .500 and PROBABLY a game or 2 under.
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How can a team be a game below .500 in a schedule consisting of an even amount of games? Even two games under is still more middle-of-the-pack than lower-tier.

I don't think USCe will be all that great next year. Had Martin been able to retain their entire roster, then they would have had a chance. But it seems as though both Anthony Gill and Damontre Harris are going to be transferring.

Compare these two starting lineups:

PG Jarvis Summers
SG Nick Williams
SF Anthony Cortesia
PF Murphy Holloway
C Reginald Buckner

PG Bruce Ellington
SG Damien Leonard
SF Lakeem Jackson
PF RJ Slawson
C Carlton Geathers

I see no way in which South Carolina will be able to compete with Ole Miss... Even with USCe's coaching edge.
 
#34
#34
It's jmo, I think Martin will have some succes, I could be dead wrong but just a feeling. Also, I just know that Kennedy hasnt been able to do much with ole miss as I'm Br thinking he's going to start now.

This past year there was what a 3 way tie for 2nd, they could be tied for 8th but ecause of tie breaks go to 10th or even lower. Jut because I'm saying 10th doesn't mean it'll be by a huge margin it could simply be just one game or even a tie break.

Once again this is all jmo.
 
#35
#35
BigPapaCat said:
So which is it? do you think so or not?
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I think they'll be around .500, my guess is they'll finish a few games below. A few games below .500 would qualify as around .500.

Sorry guess I should've been clearer, I predict ole miss to be around 2 games below .500.
 
#36
#36
Shaun1985 said:
Basketball only pls....

IMO, should be a pretty close race and I don't think there will be any hands down favorites like Kentucky was last year during the preseason.

Here's what I think


1.) Florida
(Even with Beal leaving, Florida returns a ton and welcomes in Frazier, who I think is going to be really special for them. They will have depth and experiance in the front court and Young should be the player Florida has been hoping for since he came.)
2.) Tennessee
3.) Mizzouri
(Pressey hurts them but they have some decent players coming in and the kid from Oregon could be a really kid player. )
4.) Kentucky
5.) Alabama
6.) Arkansas
7.) Georgia
8.) Vanderbilt
9.) LSU
10.) Auburn
11.) Texas A&M
12.) Ole Miss
13.) Mississippi State
14.) South Carolina
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#37
#37
ROFL! I guess you UK fans are still high from a national championship. You won't have half the team you had last year and no way do you sweep the SEC this year. I aint hating, I'm just saying. Florida is hands down the best team in the conference this year but the talent gap at Kentucky isn't nearly as big as it has been. All I can say is..we'll see. Like I said, I could see UK with at least 4-6 loses in conference play
 
#38
#38
Shaun1985 said:
ROFL! I guess you UK fans are still high from a national championship. You won't have half the team you had last year and no way do you sweep the SEC this year. I aint hating, I'm just saying. Florida is hands down the best team in the conference this year but the talent gap at Kentucky isn't nearly as big as it has been. All I can say is..we'll see. Like I said, I could see UK with at least 4-6 loses in conference play
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Hands down? Did you mean to say " isn't hands down" instead?
 
#39
#39
Nope. Not really. Florida is the best team this year and they'll lose a few games as well.
 
#40
#40
Shaun1985 said:
Nope. Not really. Florida is the best team this year and they'll lose a few games as well.
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So your saying Florida has "hands down" the best talent in the SEC? Are you a Gator fan? Not picking a fight just trying to see where you are coming from. UK will have the most talent in the conference again. Position by position UT matches up well with Florida, hence the 2 UT wins last year, so I don't see them as "hands down" more talent than UT.
 
#41
#41
zansdad said:
So your saying Florida has "hands down" the best talent in the SEC? Are you a Gator fan? Not picking a fight just trying to see where you are coming from. UK will have the most talent in the conference again. Position by position UT matches up well with Florida, hence the 2 UT wins last year, so I don't see them as "hands down" more talent than UT.
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I would argue, as their rosters are right now, Florida has more talent too top to bottom than UK.

UK:
Harrow SO 5*
Wiltjer SO 5*
Hood SR 4*
Beckham SR 2*
Goodwin FR 5*
Poythress FR 5*
Cauley FR 4*
Noel's FR 5*

UF:
Boynton SR 5*
Rosario SR 4*
Murphy SR 4*
Young JR 5*
Prather SO 4*
Yeguete JR 4*
Wilbekin JR 2*
Ogbueze FR 4*
Frazier FR 4*


I don't think it's even close. Hood is a 3 year benchwarmer to expect much of anything is a stretch, and who knows about harrow. UF actually has proven guys with experience AND talent, not just talent which I what UK has. Top 5 UF talent is comparable, but when you look top to bottoms I honestly think UF has the more talent.

Whichever of these 2 lands Bennett could e the deciding factor though.
 
#42
#42
bleedingTNorange said:
I would argue, as their rosters are right now, Florida has more talent too top to bottom than UK.

UK:
Harrow SO 5*
Wiltjer SO 5*
Hood SR 4*
Beckham SR 2*
Goodwin FR 5*
Poythress FR 5*
Cauley FR 4*
Noel's FR 5*

UF:
Boynton SR 5*
Rosario SR 4*
Murphy SR 4*
Young JR 5*
Prather SO 4*
Yeguete JR 4*
Wilbekin JR 2*
Ogbueze FR 4*
Frazier FR 4*


I don't think it's even close. Hood is a 3 year benchwarmer to expect much of anything is a stretch, and who knows about harrow. UF actually has proven guys with experience AND talent, not just talent which I what UK has. Top 5 UF talent is comparable, but when you look top to bottoms I honestly think UF has the more talent.

Whichever of these 2 lands Bennett could e the deciding factor though.
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I don't think Yeguete was a 4*... The only reason that Wilbekin was a 2* is because he graduated high school a year early, and had completely flown under the radar before that.

But, yeah, I do think that the talent between the two teams is comparable. Kentucky has more elite-level players, but we'll be deeper.
 
#43
#43
bleedingTNorange said:
I would argue, as their rosters are right now, Florida has more talent too top to bottom than UK.

UK:
Harrow SO 5*
Wiltjer SO 5*
Hood SR 4*
Beckham SR 2*
Goodwin FR 5*
Poythress FR 5*
Cauley FR 4*
Noel's FR 5*

UF:
Boynton SR 5*
Rosario SR 4*
Murphy SR 4*
Young JR 5*
Prather SO 4*
Yeguete JR 4*
Wilbekin JR 2*
Ogbueze FR 4*
Frazier FR 4*


I don't think it's even close.
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UK has five 5*'s. UF has 1.
UK has two 4*s. UF has 6.
Both have one 2*.

How is it not close??? True, they are deeper, but UK clearly has more elite talent.
 
#44
#44
BigPapaCat said:
UK has five 5*'s. UF has 1.
UK has two 4*s. UF has 6.
Both have one 2*.

How is it not close??? True, they are deeper, but UK clearly has more elite talent.
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Boynton and Young were both 5*'s...

Who I pick to come in first next year completely depends on where Bennett decides to go.
 
#45
#45
bleedingTNorange said:
I would argue, as their rosters are right now, Florida has more talent too top to bottom than UK.

UK:
Harrow SO 5*
Wiltjer SO 5*
Hood SR 4*
Beckham SR 2*
Goodwin FR 5*
Poythress FR 5*
Cauley FR 4*
Noel's FR 5*

UF:
Boynton SR 5*
Rosario SR 4*
Murphy SR 4*
Young JR 5*
Prather SO 4*
Yeguete JR 4*
Wilbekin JR 2*
Ogbueze FR 4*
Frazier FR 4*


I don't think it's even close. Hood is a 3 year benchwarmer to expect much of anything is a stretch, and who knows about harrow. UF actually has proven guys with experience AND talent, not just talent which I what UK has. Top 5 UF talent is comparable, but when you look top to bottoms I honestly think UF has the more talent.

Whichever of these 2 lands Bennett could e the deciding factor though.
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Same song different verse. Everyone, including me, was saying the same thing last year. UK has 5 5 star prospects. Florida has 2. Not sure how that equates to Florida having more talent. And there is probably a reason(s) Hood has ridden the pine; Lamb, Miller, Liggins, Bledsoe and to a degrees MKG come to mind Sitting behind NBA talent doesn't make you a bad player. Especially for Calipari who has always played a very short bench.
 
#46
#46
GatorsGators said:
I don't think Yeguete was a 4*... The only reason that Wilbekin was a 2* is because he graduated high school a year early, and had completely flown under the radar before that.

But, yeah, I do think that the talent between the two teams is comparable. Kentucky has more elite-level players, but we'll be deeper.
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Depth rarely matters with Calipari's teams. He must run them thru boot camp in the fall, they always play huge minutes and they always seem to hold up.
 
#47
#47
GatorsGators said:
Boynton and Young were both 5*'s...

Who I pick to come in first next year completely depends on where Bennett decides to go.
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I'm simply going off what Bleeding said. Even if that's true, UK still has higher talent.

I'm not saying it means we are a better team. Bennet will be a huge factor and obviously experience plays a major role.
 
#49
#49
zansdad said:
Depth rarely matters with Calipari's teams. He must run them thru boot camp in the fall, they always play huge minutes and they always seem to hold up.
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True. I just don't think that they'll be anywhere close to what they were this year, so their lack of depth will be exposed a bit more. Their 2011 class was superior to this class in every way, and they're also lacking the "upperclassman" leadership of Miller, Lamb, and Jones. They'll be taking a step back, although not a large one.

IF Florida lands Bennett (emphasis on IF) I think their talent matches up pretty well with Kentucky's. You can't completely rely on star rankings, can you? I mean, how was Wiltjer a 5* and Murphy was a 4*? What makes Wiltjer any better than Murphy?
 
#50
#50
zansdad said:
Depth rarely matters with Calipari's teams. He must run them thru boot camp in the fall, they always play huge minutes and they always seem to hold up.
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True cal doesn't play a deep bench, but outside of his 5 is all question marks...

The 3 off the bench are probably Wiltjer, hood, and beckham.

I'm sorry but I'd take Rosario, yeguette, and poythress over those 3.

UK's starting 5 will be elite as usual, but last year you bring in miller, Wiltjer, vargas now it's Wiltjer, hood, beckham. Not that Vargas was great, but IMO miller was elite and experience was huge, who out of those 3 can replace miller, I see nobody.

And if the Jordan game is any sign, Noel will get in foul trouble much more often than Davis did which was hardly ever. UK needs atleast 1 of Bennett & Jefferson.
 
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