The Fermi Paradox

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kiddiedoc said:
Not sure I could get up for work tomorrow if that was my belief.
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Sure you could. I mean, I wake up everyday thinking I will eventually die and then that's it. Poof. Nothing.

Your motivation might dwindle a little, but you'll live on. Hell, I struggled with it for a bit.
 
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VOLatile said:
Sure you could. I mean, I wake up everyday thinking I will eventually die and then that's it. Poof. Nothing.

Your motivation might dwindle a little, but you'll live on. Hell, I struggled with it for a bit.
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Sorry, but in just not wired to believe things like that. I really feel a deeper purpose and a calling, and it's reassuring to know that God created me for a reason, loves me despite my many shortcomings, and has made provision for me to spend an eternity in His presence.

Without God, nothing really makes sense.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Sorry, but in just not wired to believe things like that. I really feel a deeper purpose and a calling, and it's reassuring to know that God created me for a reason, loves me despite my many shortcomings, and has made provision for me to spend an eternity in His presence.

Without God, nothing really makes sense.
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That's fine.
 
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Submitted for the approval of the midnight society, I give you..... The tale of the Fermi Paradox
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Sorry, but in just not wired to believe things like that. I really feel a deeper purpose and a calling, and it's reassuring to know that God created me for a reason, loves me despite my many shortcomings, and has made provision for me to spend an eternity in His presence.

Without God, nothing really makes sense.
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My sentiments exactly!
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My lazy answer is if practical FTL tech really is a big deal and considering the sheer vastness of the area involved it could be entirely possible (I think) that there could be a good number of planets holding intelligent life out there and none of them have, or possibly ever will, be aware of each other.
 
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3 (colonization is beyond them) and 9 (too big for is to perceive) could very well go hand in hand.

So could 1 (already been here) and 8 (here and observing).

I'm leaning toward 6 (we are looking for the wrong signals) as the most likely scenario.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Or we could just be a virus and our planet is the host. As we grow, we destroy our host, until we both die
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I don't really think we are a virus to the planet. The planet will go one without us until the sun envelopes the most of the Solar system.

I do think man will most likely be our own undoing in the long run. Unless we achieve that great filter.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I don't really think we are a virus to the planet. The planet will go one without us until the sun envelopes the most of the Solar system.

I do think man will most likely be our own undoing in the long run. Unless we achieve that great filter.
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George Carlin agrees

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4[/youtube]
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Why this universe, why the milky way, why this leg of the pinwheel, why this solar system, why Earth? Why create the rest of the universe or multiverse?
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only a relevant question if you believe man is God's only intelligent being creation. Makes sense to me that the creator had bigger plans than just us.
 
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Well, y'all, it's a good thing I decided to land first in Tennessee when I was out on interstellar patrol. It's a wonderful place. My own little secret hideaway. So mums the word.

Otherwise, if I had landed in bama first, I would have called in the exterminators long ago!
 
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PKT_VOL said:
From the other thread:
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1. Meh, they could still be keeping tabs and we would never know, see 6 & 9. or they could have died off/been killed off 4 & 5

2. Maybe they saw this solar system was occupied and were benevolent enough to leave us in peace. maybe they expanded to a certain point had a civil war or something and didn't get around to colonizing the WHOLE galaxy. any number of reasons here- we still haven't fully colonized our planet yet and the galaxy is a lot bigger proportionally to a level 2 race than the planet is to us a level 1. (going off that system that rates a culture by how much of a energy source they use)

3 (your 4) see 6 & 9. and we have been listening for so short of a time and in such a limited manner that we could easily have missed any number of things, we still haven't figured out what really went on on Mars how can you expect us to know about everything out there.

5. a fair point, maybe they are saving us for later, if there was truly a galaxy spanning uber predator race they would have to be careful not to expend resources too fast, even on a galatic scale resources are finite. so we could be being saved for later, who knows, again just one possibility.

6 & 9. again even for the 50 years we have been sending out messages our message wouldnt have even reached 2% (probably not even 1%)of the galaxy, the messages we are sending out are much slower than light speed and the galaxy is how many light years across? so maybe they haven't heard yet. or maybe their message hasn't gotten back to us yet. maybe they heard and deemed us unimportant while they talk to the important races in the galaxy, like ignoring your younger sibling at your house party while hitting on all the attractive girls. maybe its like Trek like someone somewhere suggested and its against their "Prime Directive"
 
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volinbham said:
could be but that too me seems to be the arrogance of man IMO. I would think God has the bandwidth to manage countless civilizations. Maybe we'll meet the others at a big cosmic picnic :p
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I agree with this, I try not to limit to what God can do/has done, with what I believe.
 
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volinbham said:
could be but that too me seems to be the arrogance of man IMO. I would think God has the bandwidth to manage countless civilizations.
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Of course He does, if He desired. While the Bible never directly addresses the idea of extraterrestrial life, I think there is more argument against than for it. Most notably, the timing of Creation, God putting Man in charge of His works, the timing of the destruction of the known universe at the second coming, and the establishment of a New Earth and Jerusalem.

It would be foolish for any believer to limit God's abilities with our own thinking and (in)ability to explore. The Word just makes other life seem unlikely.
 
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I'm not sure any other civilization would want to deal with such a backwards sect as earthling. Might be why they observe us but avoid us.
 
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