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Just out of curiosity, does anyone here start seeds with a soil blockker, or does everyone just use seed cups?

I'm looking at switching to air prune pots or a soil blocker to get stronger starters.
I just use the plastic square cups that fit 18 to a 1020 tray. They do great. They're in Fancy Dirt (Coast of Maine Sprout Island seed starting mix) and get fed with "trout juice" (32 oz. - Brown’s Fish Hydrolysate) once their true leaves are out.

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I do pot tomatoes on several times (transplanting into larger and larger containers) to develop their root systems, but the others just go straight into the ground.
 
OK. It's now August. How has everyone's gardens gone. Mixed results for me this year. Looked fantastic everywhere early on, but some things just didn't go. I'm sure my maters got all fussy with the back and forth between 105 degree heat indexes and lack of rain to mid-80's wet weather. Just so-so on the maters. Good enough to enjoy fresh eating. We got a organic "farm" down the road for veggies if needed. I'm gonna re-plensih my seed supply this winter for next year. Some of my packs going on 3-4 years old. Also gonna move away from trying so many different heirlooms and go with a smaller selection of varieties and plant more than one of each. Need to tailor my picks more toward heat varieties.

Putting up a run of pickles. So got some extra cukes to supplement.

I also got vine ripe Romas for $1 a pound for some canning since my canner plant was one of the ones that broke off (one of my learned lessons on string trellising). My trial at verticle string trellising has done well despite the likely weather setbacks, but learned a few tips for next time. Next time will use that 4-6" a square horticulture netting instead of strings. Will be easier to tie up bearing side branches. Will stay with this version.

Corn was just a contribution to the critters. Cukes, Okra, Peppers, Egg Plant have done well. Melons have done well. Squash has been disappoiting. Barely enough for fresh eating. None to can. Maybe 3 zuchini so far too. Green beans OK, but disappointing. Should get a late burst. Plants still look good. I seem to have had pollination issues on squashes and pumpkins. But pumpkins are starting to put out fruit.

I should prob quit trying broccoli, except I am going to direct sow some in the next week for the fall run and see how that works out.

Laying cloth for weed control did not inhibit growth and performance. Wish I had done more, if not all areas. Corn prob not feasible, but everything else I plant can go with the cloth.

Drip irrigation was a home run idea, and only cost me $25. Rest was gifted.
This summer was just a lost cause. We have a groundhog that is apparently uncatchable, as its territory covers several yards. Just when we'd think it was safe to plant again, he'd come through and wipe out another patch. Then the heat/drought, then I got sick, then blah blah blah. When the rains started up again, the tomatoes were maturing and split from the excess water. Also the skeeters. The blackberry patch, started and maintained completely incorrectly, is chugging along and next year should look legit.

I wound up doing nearly all my gardening (despite all the obstacles) at my church, where I've installed two pollinator gardens of native plants, one in damp shade and one on a hill made mostly of rock, against a south-facing wall blasted like the sun side of Mercury and no water outlet in sensible reach. This has been fun.

Next year!
 
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The local big green cicadas are heard throughout the day, now. The “scritching” sounds of the few 17-year variety are most evident in the late afternoons. The katydids start their chorus at true dark, around 10pm, here.
 
I still fondly recall my last time camping in the mountains. For my campsite, human “quiet time” began at 10pm. That’s when the chorus of katydids began in earnest. The missus and I thought we’d never get to sleep amidst the cacophony, but being tired from hiking, we were asleep within 15 minutes. I’m fond of katydids.
 
This summer was just a lost cause. We have a groundhog that is apparently uncatchable, as its territory covers several yards. Just when we'd think it was safe to plant again, he'd come through and wipe out another patch. Then the heat/drought, then I got sick, then blah blah blah. When the rains started up again, the tomatoes were maturing and split from the excess water. Also the skeeters. The blackberry patch, started and maintained completely incorrectly, is chugging along and next year should look legit.

I wound up doing nearly all my gardening (despite all the obstacles) at my church, where I've installed two pollinator gardens of native plants, one in damp shade and one on a hill made mostly of rock, against a south-facing wall blasted like the sun side of Mercury and no water outlet in sensible reach. This has been fun.

Next year!
That's what happens when you show off your new front yard to the elders and deacons.
 
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This summer was just a lost cause. We have a groundhog that is apparently uncatchable, as its territory covers several yards. Just when we'd think it was safe to plant again, he'd come through and wipe out another patch. Then the heat/drought, then I got sick, then blah blah blah. When the rains started up again, the tomatoes were maturing and split from the excess water. Also the skeeters. The blackberry patch, started and maintained completely incorrectly, is chugging along and next year should look legit.

I wound up doing nearly all my gardening (despite all the obstacles) at my church, where I've installed two pollinator gardens of native plants, one in damp shade and one on a hill made mostly of rock, against a south-facing wall blasted like the sun side of Mercury and no water outlet in sensible reach. This has been fun.

Next year!
I fought ground hogs for years. I can't tell you how many I "got rid of". They just kept coming. I finally built a nice fence with the 2X4 mesh holes in it, 4 feet high. The ground hogs started digging under it, and rabbits would do the same, plus squeeze through the holes. I installed 1 inch mesh chicken wire, 1 foot high at the bottom. As long as their were no holes dug under it, that would do the trick. Eventually though, a ground hog would dig under that. For years I had ran a single strand of electric fence around the top of my fence to zap the coons when they would try to get to my sweet corn. It worked great. Two years ago, I decided to move the fence down to near ground level. It now stands about 3 inches off the bottom of the fence posts, two strands, one about 2 inches off the ground, and another about 4 or 5 inches off the ground. Turn that baby on and there is no digging under the fence, coons stay away, ect. I haven't even needed it this year because I put black plastic down over most of my garden, and I don't think these ground hogs and rabbits like to venture out on it. Put some flash tape up to ward birds away and build a fence like this and you should have a pest free garden, minus the deer. You have to do one of those optical illusion fences for deer.
 
I just use the plastic square cups that fit 18 to a 1020 tray. They do great. They're in Fancy Dirt (Coast of Maine Sprout Island seed starting mix) and get fed with "trout juice" (32 oz. - Brown’s Fish Hydrolysate) once their true leaves are out.

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I do pot tomatoes on several times (transplanting into larger and larger containers) to develop their root systems, but the others just go straight into the ground.
I did order a decent size bottle of fish fertilizer that I used early on. I like the stuff. Used it on the tomatoes, figs, grape, peach, peppers, etc. I just broadcast the handy ole 13-13-13 on the melons, corn and beans and such in the open areas of the garden. Even the roadside "garden" we use they said they had struggled with tomatoes. Pretty impressive how they set up their tomato growing. And they built a windowless and doorless log cabin for the produce. They started taking cards this year, but they still have a metal lockbox for after hours honor purchases. Weigh it, and drop the money in. Only thing out after hours is maters. Cukes and stff go back to cooler. They grow most everything in tunnel houses and roll the sides up as the season warms. And fairly competitive to the stores, if not slightly cheaper. The corn is $.50 an ear v. $.25 at WM, but what I stop and get at lunch today is will be picked this morning. Got Romas for $1/lb.
 
The only way to plant Melons, pumpkins, tomatoes, peppers, cabbage, and okra. Put black plastic down and cut 4 inch holes where you want the plants to go. It stays moist under the plastic, and it defeats all the weeds except around the hole itself as you can see in the top of this pic.
 

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I fought ground hogs for years. I can't tell you how many I "got rid of". They just kept coming. I finally built a nice fence with the 2X4 mesh holes in it, 4 feet high. The ground hogs started digging under it, and rabbits would do the same, plus squeeze through the holes. I installed 1 inch mesh chicken wire, 1 foot high at the bottom. As long as their were no holes dug under it, that would do the trick. Eventually though, a ground hog would dig under that. For years I had ran a single strand of electric fence around the top of my fence to zap the coons when they would try to get to my sweet corn. It worked great. Two years ago, I decided to move the fence down to near ground level. It now stands about 3 inches off the bottom of the fence posts, two strands, one about 2 inches off the ground, and another about 4 or 5 inches off the ground. Turn that baby on and there is no digging under the fence, coons stay away, ect. I haven't even needed it this year because I put black plastic down over most of my garden, and I don't think these ground hogs and rabbits like to venture out on it. Put some flash tape up to ward birds away and build a fence like this and you should have a pest free garden, minus the deer. You have to do one of those optical illusion fences for deer.
Garden Center guy told me to put stakes up around my new fruit trees and wrap fishing line around. About 12 inches from trunk. Keeps deer (bucks) from rubbing them in the fall rut. The light refraction spooks them. I also read that using reflective stuff for deer you have to choose maybe the refelctive stuff with a blue side.
 
Garden Center guy told me to put stakes up around my new fruit trees and wrap fishing line around. About 12 inches from trunk. Keeps deer (bucks) from rubbing them in the fall rut. The light refraction spooks them. I also read that using reflective stuff for deer you have to choose maybe the refelctive stuff with a blue side.
Yeah that might work, or maybe cut a piece of corrugated gutter pipe and wrap around the trunk. Split it down the middle and wrap it around and zip tie it.
 
The only way to plant Melons, pumpkins, tomatoes, peppers, cabbage, and okra. Put black plastic down and cut 4 inch holes where you want the plants to go. It stays moist under the plastic, and it defeats all the weeds except around the hole itself as you can see in the top of this pic.
I started that this year on most all my stuff. Except my personal melons I just ran two strips with a small row gap. Still would have been better with the holes though. My step son planted alot of pumpkins, and didn't want me to put the cloth down. I went along with it. Needless to say, the pumpkin space is rather weedy.

Next year I will improve upon my landscape cloth garden. Ran my drip lines under the cloth. Only way to go. glad I tried it out. I wish their were a decent way to do pole beans and corn like this. I've got cloth on either side of the beans that helped a bunch. Only had to pull weeds down the row a couple times, and wasn't that big a deal when you got alot of garden under control.
 
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Yeah that might work, or maybe cut a piece of corrugated gutter pipe and wrap around the trunk. Split it down the middle and wrap it around and zip tie it.
I actually just used the standard white plastic protector that you spiral on the truck. Dual purpose for damage and freeze protection. Took it off when it got warm. Will put it back on before the rut starts. I had some black corrugated pipe I initially put on, then I read not to use black pipe cause of excess heat. So I switched out.
 
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I ventured out a tiny bit from the traditional this year, for me anyway, and used landscape cloth, drip irrigation, and switched my tomato tying to the vertical string trellis. Very happy, and will stick with those and get better at them. My only real setback on the string treillis is that I used doubled up wire accross the top instead of something rigid. It has held fine, but when the tomatoes start getting loaded the weight stretches the wire instead of holding rigid. Minor, and correctable at any time. I just haven't got around to it. And I will switch from string to support netting so I can tie up side branches full of fruit insted of them going to the ground. Too old and busy for the weeding. The cloth should have been employed years ago.
 
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I fought ground hogs for years. I can't tell you how many I "got rid of". They just kept coming. I finally built a nice fence with the 2X4 mesh holes in it, 4 feet high. The ground hogs started digging under it, and rabbits would do the same, plus squeeze through the holes. I installed 1 inch mesh chicken wire, 1 foot high at the bottom. As long as their were no holes dug under it, that would do the trick. Eventually though, a ground hog would dig under that. For years I had ran a single strand of electric fence around the top of my fence to zap the coons when they would try to get to my sweet corn. It worked great. Two years ago, I decided to move the fence down to near ground level. It now stands about 3 inches off the bottom of the fence posts, two strands, one about 2 inches off the ground, and another about 4 or 5 inches off the ground. Turn that baby on and there is no digging under the fence, coons stay away, ect. I haven't even needed it this year because I put black plastic down over most of my garden, and I don't think these ground hogs and rabbits like to venture out on it. Put some flash tape up to ward birds away and build a fence like this and you should have a pest free garden, minus the deer. You have to do one of those optical illusion fences for deer.
You know, this has given me an idea.

We have a tiny back yard with a wooden privacy fence. The “garden” consists of three 14’x4’ and one 16’x4’ raised beds with 24” paths between. (I once worked it out, and area under cultivation is literally 0.01 - 1% - of an acre.) Separately fencing this area would make it look like a mini maximum security prison.

But we could put stakes in each corner of each bed, run wire around maybe at 3” and 6” above the edge, and use a battery-powered electrifier (is that a word? lol). Turn it off when we’re outside.

I prefer not to shock myself or the grandkids 🤪

- we don’t have deer or bears in the yard (so far), and the cat’s presence scares off the rabbits, except for the dumb babies who wander in. But the cat took one look at the groundhog, which is twice as big as she, said “oh hell, naw,” and retreated to the deck.

@Orangeslice13 are there any rechargeable batteries that would work for this? Total of 132 or 264 linear feet (one vs. two strands) of wire. Solar with plug-in backup would be wonderful. 👍🏻

- actually, we could REALLY cheap out and just electrify the perimeter of the whole area. Turning one bed off and leaving the others hot would only lead to one thing! zzzt
 
You know, this has given me an idea.

We have a tiny back yard with a wooden privacy fence. The “garden” consists of three 14’x4’ and one 16’x4’ raised beds with 24” paths between. (I once worked it out, and area under cultivation is literally 0.01 - 1% - of an acre.) Separately fencing this area would make it look like a mini maximum security prison.

But we could put stakes in each corner of each bed, run wire around maybe at 3” and 6” above the edge, and use a battery-powered electrifier (is that a word? lol). Turn it off when we’re outside.

I prefer not to shock myself or the grandkids 🤪

- we don’t have deer or bears in the yard (so far), and the cat’s presence scares off the rabbits, except for the dumb babies who wander in. But the cat took one look at the groundhog, which is twice as big as she, said “oh hell, naw,” and retreated to the deck.

@Orangeslice13 are there any rechargeable batteries that would work for this? Total of 132 or 264 linear feet (one vs. two strands) of wire. Solar with plug-in backup would be wonderful. 👍🏻

- actually, we could REALLY cheap out and just electrify the perimeter of the whole area. Turning one bed off and leaving the others hot would only lead to one thing! zzzt
Sounds like you will have an easier time of it then me! My garden is 110 feet X 55 feet. It was a multi day effort.
 
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I ventured out a tiny bit from the traditional this year, for me anyway, and used landscape cloth, drip irrigation, and switched my tomato tying to the vertical string trellis. Very happy, and will stick with those and get better at them. My only real setback on the string treillis is that I used doubled up wire accross the top instead of something rigid. It has held fine, but when the tomatoes start getting loaded the weight stretches the wire instead of holding rigid. Minor, and correctable at any time. I just haven't got around to it. And I will switch from string to support netting so I can tie up side branches full of fruit insted of them going to the ground. Too old and busy for the weeding. The cloth should have been employed years ago.
I used landscape cloth for years in the garden. It works well, but the only drawback was that crab grass would set roots through the top of it in places, so I switched to plastic.
 
Sounds like you will have an easier time of it then me! My garden is 110 feet X 55 feet. It was a multi day effort.
Haha, this is funny. I was running my idea - and your experiences - by my husband and said, "of course, he probably has what most people think of as a home garden, like 50x100 or so."
 
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Rookie gardener here, I tried growing a couple species of heirloom tomatoes this year. The plants are healthy and doing great, but almost all of the tomatoes that they are producing are splitting. Someone suggested that it may be from overwatering, but we have had a really dry summer here in middle TN and I am only watering when the probe indicates the ground is dry. Is there something I can do to stop them from splitting like that?
 

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