The Gatorade Duels

#51
#51
bubbacurry1 said:
WORST.RACING.EVER.


PS. Is anybody surprised that they threw the Johnson/Earnhardt caution in the first race. They were pretty far back there.:whistling:
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That's been a NASCAR tool forever, closing the field up. Though there is nothing Helton and Brian want to see more than a win for the 88 Sunday.
 
#53
#53
This racing absolutely sucks. I have been a fan for a long time and not that excited about the 500. 21 2 car packs will be ugly.
 
#54
#54
I also don't get how this is going to work in an actual race. I guess leading laps isn't all that important, but I'd hate to be the faster car that's relegated to pushing instead of leading.
 
#55
#55
Also the restarts are pretty awful if you're separated from your dancing partner.
 
#61
#61
From what I can tell, Bayne ran a great race. But Gordon's car was slow in all the restarts, and then he got loose and wrecked Bayne. Really, really sucks for him. He's out of the 500 now right?
 
#67
#67
After watching both duels, there were a few cars that really stood out to me.

The 29,31,33,24,22. The 24 wasn't all that good on the restarts ,but that car looked like a rocket. I was very impressed with all the RCR cars. The only Hendrick car that looked like a threat today was the 24. The 5,48, and 88 have some work to do before Sunday.
 
#68
#68
Weezy said:
From what I can tell, Bayne ran a great race. But Gordon's car was slow in all the restarts, and then he got loose and wrecked Bayne. Really, really sucks for him. He's out of the 500 now right?
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No he is locked in, the Wood Brothers got the owner points from the #19 from last year.
 
#70
#70
2nd race today was the best yet.

don't worry. they will throw a late yellow on Sunday.
 
#73
#73
Burhead said:
I love the two car draft better than the 20 car packs of old. They really shouldn't have changed anything after the Bud Shootout but they did. :banghead2:
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Ditto. I thought they had it right in the shootout. What they've done now will make for a dull race. Nascar once again out thinking themselves.
 
#74
#74
I don't even know if I can put into words how lousy I feel after watching that crap this afternoon. People used to call restrictor plate "pack" racing an abomination. Well, today we witnessed an abomination. This is unnatural and it stinks to high heaven.

I don't watch plate races to see "the big one" but I do like watching guys work their way through a pack of cars and use the draft and pick their spots. This stuff today and last Saturday night both have just made my stomach turn. I hope to God NASCAR does something about this by Sunday. Its obvious the teams have prepared all winter to do this type of push drafing and the small changes they made early in the week didn't help. At this point I'm not sure what else they could do to the cars themselves. So, I say NASCAR should tell the drivers NO push drafting. If you want to bump a guy and come off of their bumper that is fine but no push drafting will be allowed.

Even in the big pack racing there was skill needed. A guy had to pick his spots and the cream of the crop still would rise to the top. I have nothing against Brian Keselowski but his run to 5th should show everyone that with the right pusher it don't matter how good your car is. It was a 5 year old Evernham car that even he half admitted was junk until little brother got attached to him.

And with the pusher not being able to see when the guy in front has to check up if they let this continue Sunday they'll likely have "the big one" on a restart or the start of the race anyhow. They have been lucky with the crashes so far mostly just being single car accidents.

The 2000 Daytona 500 that prompted NASCAR to adopt the sweeping changes that made the next two years worth of plate races crazy as they ever were STILL would beat this two car crap. They had to maneuver their way through a pack and yes it was hard to pass but if you had drafting help you could pull out with a group and make a run. Now you have to have one car, any car, and you can go anywhere.

And is it really fair that the Fords don't seem to overheat and have to swap out when the Chevy's, Toyota's, and Dodge's do? Not anything against Ford but if two Fords can hook together and be able to stay attached while the others are having to switch will give them a huge advantage over long runs in the race.

I don't know what NASCAR can do and maybe I'm in the minority here on this forum in hating this with a purple passion but I do and hope and pray that NASCAR does something to eliminate these two car freight trains come Sunday. If not it will be the most agonizing 500 in history. And yes, I could turn the channel or not watch but this is the race that I look forward to most every season and it pains me to think that potentially one of the best 500's in history may be one of the worst due to this tag team racing - and I use the word racing loosely in this context.
 
#75
#75
DownNDirty said:
I don't even know if I can put into words how lousy I feel after watching that crap this afternoon. People used to call restrictor plate "pack" racing an abomination. Well, today we witnessed an abomination. This is unnatural and it stinks to high heaven.

I don't watch plate races to see "the big one" but I do like watching guys work their way through a pack of cars and use the draft and pick their spots. This stuff today and last Saturday night both have just made my stomach turn. I hope to God NASCAR does something about this by Sunday. Its obvious the teams have prepared all winter to do this type of push drafing and the small changes they made early in the week didn't help. At this point I'm not sure what else they could do to the cars themselves. So, I say NASCAR should tell the drivers NO push drafting. If you want to bump a guy and come off of their bumper that is fine but no push drafting will be allowed.

Even in the big pack racing there was skill needed. A guy had to pick his spots and the cream of the crop still would rise to the top. I have nothing against Brian Keselowski but his run to 5th should show everyone that with the right pusher it don't matter how good your car is. It was a 5 year old Evernham car that even he half admitted was junk until little brother got attached to him.

And with the pusher not being able to see when the guy in front has to check up if they let this continue Sunday they'll likely have "the big one" on a restart or the start of the race anyhow. They have been lucky with the crashes so far mostly just being single car accidents.

The 2000 Daytona 500 that prompted NASCAR to adopt the sweeping changes that made the next two years worth of plate races crazy as they ever were STILL would beat this two car crap. They had to maneuver their way through a pack and yes it was hard to pass but if you had drafting help you could pull out with a group and make a run. Now you have to have one car, any car, and you can go anywhere.

And is it really fair that the Fords don't seem to overheat and have to swap out when the Chevy's, Toyota's, and Dodge's do? Not anything against Ford but if two Fords can hook together and be able to stay attached while the others are having to switch will give them a huge advantage over long runs in the race.

I don't know what NASCAR can do and maybe I'm in the minority here on this forum in hating this with a purple passion but I do and hope and pray that NASCAR does something to eliminate these two car freight trains come Sunday. If not it will be the most agonizing 500 in history. And yes, I could turn the channel or not watch but this is the race that I look forward to most every season and it pains me to think that potentially one of the best 500's in history may be one of the worst due to this tag team racing - and I use the word racing loosely in this context.
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Really it's too late for them to make enough changes to see the packs that you're used to seeing. It won't be that kind of racing this time.

I'll say this, it might end up being a pretty good finish to the race though. It should get wild.

They'll run over one another it's inevitable.
 
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