The Georgia Postgame Report

#51
#51
The kids have been playing hard ball for the past 6 games. I think it caught up with them. But it's not over. Take care of the next two and bring it on in the SEC tourney.
 
#52
#52
zjcvols said:
1. When Trae Golden, Josh Richardson, and Skylar McBee go 5-29 from the field, you will lose. It's that simple.

2. A bad loss. I assume since most people overreact here that we will declare the season over. It's not. I don't know the numbers, but we'll see what happens. Win Wednesday and Saturday.

3. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is simply kryptonite to Tennessee. He was everywhere. He was just too good.

4. Bernard King Player of the Game: Jordan McRae. I remember watching Chris Lofton play. I don't know if he ever went 8-11 from three point range. That was just a sick, sick performance. Damn, he's good. He should get All-American consideration.

5. Martin should have scratched the four guard lineup today. We had to protect the paint with either Yemi or Kenny today. Georgia had too many easy paths to the bucket.

6. UT jogged their offense. They didn't run it. They didn't set good screens. They didn't cut with purpose. They didn't set their feet with shots. It just wasn't there.

7. It doesn't matter how good Jordan McRae play. Doesn't matter how beastly Jarnell is. When Trae Golden plays bad, UT loses. It's so simple. Anybody that doesn't think point guard play is important in college basketball just needs to look at UT.

8. UT's lack of depth showed. But not in terms of conditioning. Golden/McBee were terrible today. Everyone wanted them benched. Who are you going to put in? He gave Reese and Chevious minutes, and they did nothing. Armani Moore struggles mightily on the road. UT had to go with Golden/McBee and neither one could get it going.

9. Kenny Hall gave UT solid minutes. He was the only one off the bench. 10 points/3 boards is a good performance from him.

10. Just a bad loss. Kills momentum. No other way to describe it. I'm not well versed in the ways of the tournament. You'll have to go for other guys for that. Get the hell out of Athens, regroup Sunday, keep preaching positive messages and hope for the team, and go to the Plains and take it out on Auburn. You can't focus on the past. You just have to move on.

Go Vols!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hi:
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Nice wrap up as usual. Obviously when Golden is AWOL like he was today we have virtually no chance. I also thought Stokes was awful. No touch whatsoever around the rim and didn't contribute anything offensively. Jordy Mac was awesome today and, with the exception of, gulp, Kenny Hall, his teammates left him hung out to dry. Finally, Caldwell-Pope was fantastic, he's a NBA player. However, I thought the difference makers in the game were the 2 freshmen guards coming off the bench. They were remarkable, especially the 6'4" pg from Alparetta (sorry I forgot his name). His penetration, playmaking and ability to get to the line and bury free throws was the difference in the game IMHO.
 
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#55
#55
Hey Guys, I like Stokes, he's a physical beast and his double doubles have been instrumental to the 6 game win streak prior to today. When he has controlled the paint this year with his rebounding and (sometimes) blocked shots we are a much better team. But can we please never again ask the question of whether he will declare for the NBA draft early? I'm just hoping he really works hard to make himself into a legitimate first team all SEC player by developing an offensive game. He desperately needs to develop some offensive skills to have a shot at playing in the NBA and to me he's not close. His production comes almost exclusively from his God given size and strength. I know he's young and I really don't mean to bang on the kid, but when I see that question asked pretty consistently if drives me nuts. He simply isn't ready and I like the idea if getting to have him here next year with a truly polished offensive low post player in Maymon.
 
#56
#56
bleedingTNorange said:
Agree and we only had one bad loss, so it's not like we have a mountain of bad losses. The fact both are to the same team actually looks a little better, as if you just don't match up well with them.

The NCAA committee weighs a TON on home games and protecting your home court, that's one reason why Missouri was always basically a must win. We also need the RPI top 50 wins, more than we need the no bad losses (hope that makes sense), and Missouri provides that.

RPI drop today will be about the same as RPI gain we would get from beating Missouri, obviously beating Missouri looks great. RPI loss of losing to them would have actually likely dropped us MORE than the loss today. Right now our RPI and probably top 50 wins are our weakest areas, beating Missouri helps both, and only adding a 2nd bad loss isn't bad. Look at the other bubble teams, most have at least 2 bad losses.
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Dude. Give it up already. It's over. Without a sec tourney championship. You can't be on the bubble and drop a game to Georgia and expect to get in.
 
#57
#57
Am I the only one that things Georgia isn't really a bad loss? I mean, from the perspective of the committee, Georgia is and should be a bad loss.

But anyone who watched that game had to believe Georgia's record isn't totally indicative of who they are as a team. How did that same team lose to Vandy earlier this week? KCP is a monster.

It just makes me hate Georgia more. The *******s play really well against us and no one else. Or they just choke all the time and are huge underachievers. Either way, they piss me off. ****ers.
 
#58
#58
We could have made a statement early on when they kept turning it over but we didn't.
 
#59
#59
Bballvol said:
Dude. Give it up already. It's over. Without a sec tourney championship. You can't be on the bubble and drop a game to Georgia and expect to get in.
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That's such a shortsighted way of looking at it. Jeez. It's not as simple as "Oh we lost to Georgia, we suck, we're screwed, we can't get in."

There are other games that we won that are good wins. You have to look at the whole thing. There are still wins left to get.
 
#61
#61
utfan72408 said:
That's such a shortsighted way of looking at it. Jeez. It's not as simple as "Oh we lost to Georgia, we suck, we're screwed, we can't get in."

There are other games that we won that are good wins. You have to look at the whole thing. There are still wins left to get.
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The bubble has popped. They had to win out. Now lets move on to the sec tourney. My only concern now is winning games for sec seeding.
 
#63
#63
utfan72408 said:
Am I the only one that things Georgia isn't really a bad loss? I mean, from the perspective of the committee, Georgia is and should be a bad loss.

But anyone who watched that game had to believe Georgia's record isn't totally indicative of who they are as a team. How did that same team lose to Vandy earlier this week? KCP is a monster.

It just makes me hate Georgia more. The *******s play really well against us and no one else. Or they just choke all the time and are huge underachievers. Either way, they piss me off. ****ers.
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Damn, my sentiments exactly. They looked like a better more talented team than us today. Contributions from everywhere while we were just a one man show. It's getting to where there are so many enemies now they I almost don't have enough hate to go around, lol.
 
#64
#64
bleedingTNorange said:
Agree and we only had one bad loss, so it's not like we have a mountain of bad losses. The fact both are to the same team actually looks a little better, as if you just don't match up well with them.

The NCAA committee weighs a TON on home games and protecting your home court, that's one reason why Missouri was always basically a must win. We also need the RPI top 50 wins, more than we need the no bad losses (hope that makes sense), and Missouri provides that.

RPI drop today will be about the same as RPI gain we would get from beating Missouri, obviously beating Missouri looks great. RPI loss of losing to them would have actually likely dropped us MORE than the loss today. Right now our RPI and probably top 50 wins are our weakest areas, beating Missouri helps both, and only adding a 2nd bad loss isn't bad. Look at the other bubble teams, most have at least 2 bad losses.
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You make a good case, but I still think I disagree. Having less bad losses is what separates us from the other bubble teams. More bad losses puts us dangerously close to the resume we carried last year.
 
#66
#66
utfan72408 said:
Am I the only one that things Georgia isn't really a bad loss? I mean, from the perspective of the committee, Georgia is and should be a bad loss.
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The committee's view is all that matters. We, as fans, can rationalize any loss as good or bad. The committee is (or should be) completely objective, and as you said, losses to teams like UGA are deemed bad losses.
 
#67
#67
KBVol said:
Damn, my sentiments exactly. They looked like a better more talented team than us today. Contributions from everywhere while we were just a one man show. It's getting to where there are so many enemies now they I almost don't have enough hate to go around, lol.
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The way Tennessee played today is how UGA has looked most of the season. KCP has been consistent for them all season, but they rarely get help from others consistently.
 
#68
#68
cncchris33 said:
The committee's view is all that matters. We, as fans, can rationalize any loss as good or bad. The committee is (or should be) completely objective, and as you said, losses to teams like UGA are deemed bad losses.
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Oh I agree 100%. I'd never make an argument against that. I was merely stating what I felt from a fan's perspective, committee aside.
 
#69
#69
OrangeBalls said:
That's really the story of the game other than Golden and Stokes not being effective and UT's bench being a no show other than Hall.

I think Fox is a good coach. For some reason or another though, he hasn't had the results this year. They've been in a lot of games as you said, but haven't sealed the deal a lot of times. Fox has outcoached Martin though. No denying that. I think if Fox had Martin's roster and Martin had Fox's roster this game wouldn't have been close. Pearl used to own UGA. Those days are over as long as Fox is there.
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another point for me in rewatching the game was how often we drove to the basket and didn't get much resistance. our guards haven't been able to do that a lot, but today's game we were able to. regarding fox we have struggled this year with the youth in mann, gaines, and morris and some guys like nemi and donte regressing. however we are seeing nemi get his confidence back and our young guys are growing up and playing much better. it shows that we are 8-8 in the sec but we were terrible in december. another issue is fox's substitutions he depends on upperclassmen too much because he doesn't trust our younger guys especially in crunch time. that killed us against vandy in the final minute of the game.

however fox is a good coach overall and if kcp stays we will be in the ncaa tourney next year.
 
#70
#70
KBVol said:
Damn, my sentiments exactly. They looked like a better more talented team than us today. Contributions from everywhere while we were just a one man show. It's getting to where there are so many enemies now they I almost don't have enough hate to go around, lol.
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Truth. Most of my hate is directed toward UK and Vandy. I have none for Florida (in basketball) because we own them.

Georgia can suck it. Haha.
 
#71
#71
Bballvol said:
The bubble has popped. They had to win out. Now lets move on to the sec tourney. My only concern now is winning games for sec seeding.
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Who are you, the head of the selection committee?

Stop saying that like it's fact. You don't know any more than I do.
 
#72
#72
utfan72408 said:
Oh I agree 100%. I'd never make an argument against that. I was merely stating what I felt from a fan's perspective, committee aside.
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Yeah, I figured that you were. You seem level-headed, and as a fan, I agree with you. They have played us tough in both matchups. I'm not sure why, but they have our number. Ole Miss does as well, but they are a bad matchup for us individually. I have a hard time putting a finger on why UGA has us pegged.
 
#73
#73
Bballvol said:
Dude. Give it up already. It's over. Without a sec tourney championship. You can't be on the bubble and drop a game to Georgia and expect to get in.
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Another clueless one, how cute. Take a look at other bubble teams and their bad losses
 
#74
#74
cncchris33 said:
Yeah, I figured that you were. You seem level-headed, and as a fan, I agree with you. They have played us tough in both matchups. I'm not sure why, but they have our number. Ole Miss does as well, but they are a bad matchup for us individually. I have a hard time putting a finger on why UGA has us pegged.
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Thank you! I'm level-headed for the most part, but only when there isn't a game going on, if you know what I mean. :) I was ready to punch a wall during that second half.

But yeah, it's truly puzzling. Like you said, the Ole Miss thing makes sense, but not Georgia. They had some other guys step up today like Mann and Gaines, two absolute nobodies. That's what pisses me off, when guys like that, who I've never heard of, play well. Djurisic played some solid defense, too.

Basketball doesn't have to make sense, though. It rarely has this season.
 
#75
#75
cncchris33 said:
You make a good case, but I still think I disagree. Having less bad losses is what separates us from the other bubble teams. More bad losses puts us dangerously close to the resume we carried last year.
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Our 2 bad losses is still better than most other bubble teams

Adding the big time win IMO is what we really needed.

We had a list of horrible HORRIBLE losses last year, and a RPI close to 80...this years resume is by far much better, not really even close.
 
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