The Georgia Postgame Report

#76
#76
Bballvol said:
Because I have a brain and don't look at everything with orange colored glasses. Also it was apparent Florida and uk were down when we played them. The committee isn't stupid.
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Good God. Now you're trying to diminish our biggest wins. The committee looks only at wins and losses. They aren't going to factor in the fact that UK and Florida were down at the time, nor should they, nor does it matter.

Try to give us a little CREDIT for those wins. I know it's hard. But try. You're being ridiculous.
 
#77
#77
cncchris33 said:
The way Tennessee played today is how UGA has looked most of the season. KCP has been consistent for them all season, but they rarely get help from others consistently.
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Think we went back to our early season habits on offense.
Stokes, 7 touches.
25 3s.
How soon they forget.
Where was Martin after the 15th 3?
 
#78
#78
BadJerry20 said:
I feel bad for Jordy, kid played his tail off, nobody else even showed up. Well except Kenny, I can't believe I just said that.
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:lolabove:They didn't kill Kenny!
He didn't take this game off like some. Did you ever feel like some days you wished you didn't get up? It looked like some of the team felt the same way.
GO VOLS!
 
#79
#79
zjcvols said:
1. When Trae Golden, Josh Richardson, and Skylar McBee go 5-29 from the field, you will lose. It's that simple.

2. A bad loss. I assume since most people overreact here that we will declare the season over. It's not. I don't know the numbers, but we'll see what happens. Win Wednesday and Saturday.

3. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is simply kryptonite to Tennessee. He was everywhere. He was just too good.

4. Bernard King Player of the Game: Jordan McRae. I remember watching Chris Lofton play. I don't know if he ever went 8-11 from three point range. That was just a sick, sick performance. Damn, he's good. He should get All-American consideration.

5. Martin should have scratched the four guard lineup today. We had to protect the paint with either Yemi or Kenny today. Georgia had too many easy paths to the bucket.

6. UT jogged their offense. They didn't run it. They didn't set good screens. They didn't cut with purpose. They didn't set their feet with shots. It just wasn't there.

7. It doesn't matter how good Jordan McRae play. Doesn't matter how beastly Jarnell is. When Trae Golden plays bad, UT loses. It's so simple. Anybody that doesn't think point guard play is important in college basketball just needs to look at UT.

8. UT's lack of depth showed. But not in terms of conditioning. Golden/McBee were terrible today. Everyone wanted them benched. Who are you going to put in? He gave Reese and Chevious minutes, and they did nothing. Armani Moore struggles mightily on the road. UT had to go with Golden/McBee and neither one could get it going.

9. Kenny Hall gave UT solid minutes. He was the only one off the bench. 10 points/3 boards is a good performance from him.

10. Just a bad loss. Kills momentum. No other way to describe it. I'm not well versed in the ways of the tournament. You'll have to go for other guys for that. Get the hell out of Athens, regroup Sunday, keep preaching positive messages and hope for the team, and go to the Plains and take it out on Auburn. You can't focus on the past. You just have to move on.

Go Vols!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hi:
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I agree with all of this except number 8. We don't have great depth, but CCM could and should have gotten McBee off the court. Go 3 guard, have a steady rotation of 2 of Stokes, Yemi, and Hall. Go heavy on minutes with Richardson, McRae, and Golden. Sub in McBee when TV timeouts are upcoming just to rest people.
 
#80
#80
There is a positive to the game today.

There is one less game that I will have to sit and watch McBee chase around the teams best player and continously get burned. I'm so glad the commentators finally said something about how whoever McBee is guarding, GA is running their offense through whoever he is on. It's been that way for the past 2 years. Why in the hell is he always guarding the opponent's best player is beyond me. It will be a great day in big orange nation the day he graduates.
 
#81
#81
Today was very disappointing. Stokes and Golden did not show up today.

IMO< in order to get to the Tourney we need to win four more games, or win the SEC Tournament.
 
#82
#82
calban said:
Think we went back to our early season habits on offense.
Stokes, 7 touches.
25 3s.
How soon they forget.
Where was Martin after the 15th 3?
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We took a step backward today in a season of progression. We had really gotten away from all those bad habits as the season went on. Hopefully, we move on and learn from this.
 
#83
#83
Tux said:
Today was very disappointing. Stokes and Golden did not show up today.

IMO< in order to get to the Tourney we need to win four more games, or win the SEC Tournament.
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Wouldn't be too hard on Stokes.
His buddies forgot he was there.
Only 7 touches. Inexcusable.
 
#84
#84
Damn, it's just how the thing looks. It's not the end of the world, but it's not a good loss. The problem is, UGA will lose their last two, meaning they will lose 7 out of 8 to end the season-with the 1 win against us. WHen you are fighting on the bubble, that's the silly **** that can hurt you.
 
#85
#85
bleedingTNorange said:
Our 2 bad losses is still better than most other bubble teams

Adding the big time win IMO is what we really needed.

We had a list of horrible HORRIBLE losses last year, and a RPI close to 80...this years resume is by far much better, not really even close.
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I'd still rather rest on our one bad loss at season's end as the distinguishing element to separate ourselves from other bubble teams. There are plenty of bubble teams with several good wins, us included. Prior to today, we had the distinction of only one slip up. I will continue to hold the belief that at this point in the season, I'd rather avoid bad losses on the road than collect good wins at home.
 
#86
#86
Spartacavolus said:
j rich is struggling on both ends of the floor, which doesn't help.

Ga had fun and played loose and hard. We didn't. Amazing how many times the team with nothing to lose plays better.
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Bingo. They have nothing to play for except maybe an NIT bid if they win out and win a couple in the tourney. We had all the pressure. We were in their house, pathetic as it is. And we just seemed like we were playing in slow motion - I got the sense that all the minutes logged by Golden, Stokes, McBee, and Richardson between the 4OT game and general shortening of the bench finally caught up to them today. (not so McRae, for whatever reason. What a waste of a beast mode performance.) Golden and McBee in particular just weren't getting their usual lift on their shots, and Stokes didn't seem to have the juice he's had recently to work through the double teams and get his points and rebounds.

About the only positive today, other than McRae: we shot free throws very well on the road. 14-16. Too bad we weren't aggressive enough to get in the paint and go to the line more often (those stats are probably inflated by the fact that Stokes only attempted 2 free throws.) Also, 12 turnovers is respectable. We usually win when we keep it under 13-14. But take away Hall and McRae, and the rest of the team was 8-37 from the field. Eight. For. Thirty. Seven. That's absurd. Can't beat anyone that way.

I'd say we'd have to beat Auburn, Missouri, and then win at least two games in the SEC tournament to have a decent case for the Dance. It's not impossible, but the NCAA hopes took a big blow today.
 
#87
#87
calban said:
Wouldn't be too hard on Stokes.
His buddies forgot he was there.
Only 7 touches. Inexcusable.
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While I agree that we've got to feed Stokes the ball more....the guy has got to develop the ability to face up to the basket occasionally. Even Hall can knock down the mid-range J from the corner. Stokes either lays it in or dunks it...that's it. Until he can do this, I'm afraid we're not gonna see him develop into the kind of player we all want him to be.
 
#88
#88
Win against Auburn and Missouri and win just one game in tourney gets us in I think, but I don't like our matchup with Missouri. Athletic, quick guards give Golden problems.
 
#89
#89
I think I would take a boring 30 point win over this one. Same old story. Get cocky, start bombing 3's and completely forget how to play basketball. 30+ from Jordan and almost nothing from the rest of the team is not how you make the tournament ...they just can't seem to learn that they aren't better than their record ..
 
#90
#90
volgrad500 said:
Damn, it's just how the thing looks. It's not the end of the world, but it's not a good loss. The problem is, UGA will lose their last two, meaning they will lose 7 out of 8 to end the season-with the 1 win against us. WHen you are fighting on the bubble, that's the silly **** that can hurt you.
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Not a horrible loss. UGA is 7-4 over their last 11. They're 8-8 in conf. They haven't been blown out either. They lost to AL by 7, Ole Miss by 10 in OT, lost by 2 @ Arkansas (who's 17-1 at home), and lost by 1 point at Vandy......... so, i don't think the committee will view it as a big negative at all.
 
#91
#91
utfan72408 said:
Good God. Now you're trying to diminish our biggest wins. The committee looks only at wins and losses. They aren't going to factor in the fact that UK and Florida were down at the time, nor should they, nor does it matter.

Try to give us a little CREDIT for those wins. I know it's hard. But try. You're being ridiculous.
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Wait......I need to digest all of your posts. So the committee WILL consider UKs loss of Noel when it evaluates them for the NCAA tourney but will NOT when it comes to us beating them....... OK I get it so the committee is made up ofVOL fans I didn't realize. My bad.
 
#92
#92
KBVol said:
Nice wrap up as usual. Obviously when Golden is AWOL like he was today we have virtually no chance. I also thought Stokes was awful. No touch whatsoever around the rim and didn't contribute anything offensively. Jordy Mac was awesome today and, with the exception of, gulp, Kenny Hall, his teammates left him hung out to dry. Finally, Caldwell-Pope was fantastic, he's a NBA player. However, I thought the difference makers in the game were the 2 freshmen guards coming off the bench. They were remarkable, especially the 6'4" pg from Alparetta (sorry I forgot his name). His penetration, playmaking and ability to get to the line and bury free throws was the difference in the game IMHO.
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That was Charles Mann and I agree 100 pct. He's the kind of PG that would fit CCM's desire for length - about 6-4 - and the rest of our desire for a playmaker - 8 assists, got in the lane at will, hit 12-14 FTs when fouled. Maybe, maybe Darius Thompson can be that.

Still can't believe CCM thinks a PG who can't shoot a lick stands a chance of contributing in this league.
 
#93
#93
Bballvol said:
Wait......I need to digest all of your posts. So the committee WILL consider UKs loss of Noel when it evaluates them for the NCAA tourney but will NOT when it comes to us beating them....... OK I get it so the committee is made up ofVOL fans I didn't realize. My bad.
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Quit acting like we are insinuating that the committee is made up of Vol fans. You are just being argumentative if that's your stance.

Take Tennessee out of the equatiin and replace them with Arkansas. Arkansas beat UK sans Noel yesterday. Arkansas will be credited with beating UK, period. The committee will not break down and disect every single win on any team's resume, in search of extenuating circumstances.

They will however look at UK, and how they are much different without Noel. They will be judged on the team they are now. I offered you proof of that with the 2000 Cincinnati team when Kenyon Martin was injured and missed the postseason. They were 27-2 I believe, and a slam dunk for the top overall seed. Martin gets hurt, and they were bumped, not only out of the #1 overall seed, but out of a #1 seed altogether, despite not losing any games on the court as a result of his injury, IIRC.
 
#94
#94
Bballvol said:
Wait......I need to digest all of your posts. So the committee WILL consider UKs loss of Noel when it evaluates them for the NCAA tourney but will NOT when it comes to us beating them....... OK I get it so the committee is made up ofVOL fans I didn't realize. My bad.
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I'm gonna try to be as nice as possible...YES that is how it works. The UK win will be viewed as a top 75 RPI win, regardless of whether Noel was on the court or not. The Florida win will also count as a top 10 RPI win, regardless of if they were missing one player.

However, Kentucky will be evaluated on their current team, because that's the team that will be playing in the tournament. I'm sorry if you don't agree win this, but take a step back and look, there's 100 people telling you this is how the committe works you're the only one saying it works your way.
 
#95
#95
bleedingTNorange said:
I'm gonna try to be as nice as possible...YES that is how it works. The UK win will be viewed as a top 75 RPI win, regardless of whether Noel was on the court or not. The Florida win will also count as a top 10 RPI win, regardless of if they were missing one player.

However, Kentucky will be evaluated on their current team, because that's the team that will be playing in the tournament. I'm sorry if you don't agree win this, but take a step back and look, there's 100 people telling you this is how the committe works you're the only one saying it works your way.
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I've tried. Futile effort.
 
#97
#97
Bballvol said:
Wait......I need to digest all of your posts. So the committee WILL consider UKs loss of Noel when it evaluates them for the NCAA tourney but will NOT when it comes to us beating them.......
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Yes. That's exactly what they will do. Glad you understand.

Also, well said CNC and BTO. ^^^
 
#98
#98
“@wesrucker247: Vols' Jarnell Stokes said Georgia had two players whose only job on the defensive glass was to box him out.”
 
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