I'm saying I am not a fan of everything
going into a compendium. I'm on your side as far as
you not having half your threads merged into one--
it kind of makes it hard to discuss things when an
unrelated topic gets merged right after another.
One can always use the 'quote' feature to explain
what one is talking about.
I wouldn't doubt that there are some topics worthy
of discussion and/or debate buried in this thread.
Wonder which board monitor is doing this and just
what the criteria might be to qualify to be in this
thread.
I am completely uninformed on those two questions.
As far as the Armenian genocide, I am also horrified
by it and saddened by it's lack of attention. I don't
think the number was 10 million, but it was certainly
in the millions.
I've run this down several times.
Armenians - 2m, give or take a half million, hard for
dead people to complete a census.
Assyrians - almost 1m
Greeks - don't remember but a significant number
Southern Sudanese - 2m
Rwandans - 1m
That's about 8m.
Serbians - at least 1m
All those are primarily Christian and does not take into
account the number of Jews during WWII the genocide
of which the forces of islam were avid participants.
The Serbians were our allies in WWII and suffered a
greater number of casualties per capita than any other
one group, if not for their valiant and heroic effort, Hitler
would have captured Moscow, unfortunately at the end
of WWII the Serbians were betrayed by Great Britain, the
USSR and America into the hands of the Croatian communist
Tito who slaughtered repatriated Serbian POWs returning
from German POW camps on the spot and kept open a nazi
genocide concentration camp that produced the third most
dead bodies in the whole WWII nazi camp system for a full
six years after the war, in which he continued to exterminate
enemies, mostly Christian Serbs.
That's just a summary, to nowadays claim that islam is
the religion of peace is an insult to the intelligence of
anyone with the least bit of knowledge history or even
just the history of the last century.
I don't just lay it at the feet of Islam though just because
it was the Ottoman Empire any more than I lay the holocaust
at the feet of Christianity (or even modern Germany). Religious division and persecution was certainly a factor,
as was political and ethnic issues.
Why are American school children not taught that the
credo of islam was the main motivating factor of the
Ottoman empire??
Hitler was aligned with islam, his famous book is more
or less repeating the teachings of the koran.
He was in no way a Christian or ever professed anything
other than socialism as his religion and he was greatly
involved in the occult.
I find Turkey's continued denials disgusting, and really
indefensible.
At the meeting in Feb, 2010, Turkish Prime Minister Recep
Tayyip Erdogan urged Turks living in foreign countries to
take out citizenship of the new homelands – not to integrate, but rather to become more politically active.
Recent quotes from Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip
Erdogan who Barrack Hussein Obama calls his close friend:
"Mosques are our barracks, domes our helmets, minarets
our bayonets, believers our soldiers. This holy army guards
my religion. Almighty our journey is our destiny, the end is
martyrdom."
-- Erdogan
"
The term 'moderate Islam' is ugly and offensive
-- Islam is Islam."
-- Erdogan
So bear in mind you apologist for islam, when you mention
moderate muslims you are insulting islam itself.
Muammar Ghadafi Prime Minister of the socialist revolutionary
government of Libya:
“We have four million Muslims in Albania. There are signs
that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe – without swords,
without guns, without conquests. The fifty million Muslims of
Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few
decades. Europe is in a predicament, and so is America.
They should agree to become Islamic in the course of time,
or else declare war on the Muslims.”
On February 26, 2010, Moammar Gadhafi called for a jihad
against the neutral country Switzerland.
Gadhafi was speaking at a conference marking the berth
of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and was quoted as
saying, "...any Muslim in any part of the world who works with Switzerland is an apostate, is against Muhammad, God,
and the Qur'an... let us fight against Switzerland, Zionism,
and foreign aggression."
This was brought about by the vote of the people of
Switzerland to ban any more minarets being built in that
country.
One of the islamic laws of sharia is that a church steeple
cannot be taller than an islamic minerat, thus signifying
the surperiority of islam to Christianity.
Adnan Oktar’s Vision of a Turkish-led Islamic Union
Iran's Mr. Ahmadinejad, performing his prayers behind a
Sunni imam, is very, very meaningful. Above all it means
“if a Turkish-Islamic Union is to be formed, I will abide a
Sunni imam, I will accept him as an imam.”
Bear in mind this is the president of a country that
celebrates a national holiday named "Death to America"
day.
What we are talking about is a religious/political/economic
organization that divides the world into two distinct spheres,
Dar al-Harb (land of war) and Dar al-Islam (land of submission
to the will of allah.)
It is always and forever required of the land of Dar al-Islam
to make war on Dar al-Harb, through immigration and political
activity and/or creating civil unrest or military agression.
(an activity at which they have become particularly inept.)
[one little trick of language is that in many cases the two
words 'islam' and 'salaam' are discerned to mean the same,
this is in no wise true. In Arabic, Urdu and several other
languages the greeting; "salaam aleikum", meaning 'peace
be unto you' is common place but that is the same as the
word 'islam', 'islam' mean submission, 'salaam' means peace
as in Jerusalem, city of peace, but is a distictly different
word with a complerely different word 'islam' which has a
tottally different meaning.]
Further enlightenment about islam.
Virtually every contemporary Western leader has expressed
the view that Islam is a peaceful religion and that those who
commit violence in its name are fanatics who misinterpret its
tenets. This widely circulated claim is false.
Islam's War Against the World demonstrates that Islam is
a violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation
and destruction of other faiths, cultures, and systems of
government.
The jihadis that Westerners have been indoctrinated to
believe are extremists, are actually in the mainstream....
Furthermore I would very much like to get into a discussion
of Clinton's BS grand deceptionon OKC and contemporary
America and the dangers he supposes comes from the
heartland when in fact they are foreign imports and grand
deceptions dating back at least to the assassination of JFK.