The Holly Bobo Kidnapping

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#526
Vol_til_I_die said:
That's what I'm asking. Was he in school, on time, that day? Or has that info been released?
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I don't think so... Cops have always said 'boyfriend is not a suspect'... I think they've always meant grocery guy... I don't think they've ever directly addressed 18yo... could be wrong, but I think they've been evading on this other kid.
 
#528
#528
i don't think that murder was the initial plan. whether or not it has/will escalate to that is the scary part, but i'm not convinced that from the get-go that was part of it. if so i think it would have happened quickly w/in reason and the "trail" of stuff wouldn't have kept going on and on throughout the week.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
I don't think so... Cops have always said 'boyfriend is not a suspect'... I think they've always meant grocery guy... I don't think they've ever directly addressed 18yo... could be wrong, but I think they've been evading on this other kid.
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Again just guessing but that would make sense. Let's say 18 yr old is/was missing. They suspect its him. Don't talk about him much but keep the area contained as to where they thought he had traveled or is returning to. More tactical squads and vehicles have joined and since they're following the same route...it would seem they have an idea of the direction he traveled. Knowing the terrain one could get a lot farther, quicker, than people who don't and are searching slowly to make sure nothing is overlooked.
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wildnkrazykat said:
i don't think that murder was the initial plan. whether or not it has/will escalate to that is the scary part, but i'm not convinced that from the get-go that was part of it. if so i think it would have happened quickly w/in reason and the "trail" of stuff wouldn't have kept going on and on throughout the week.
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My thought, too. I don't think any of this was planned other than the confrontation at the house. Something happened and it escalated.
 
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wildnkrazykat said:
i don't think that murder was the initial plan. whether or not it has/will escalate to that is the scary part, but i'm not convinced that from the get-go that was part of it. if so i think it would have happened quickly w/in reason and the "trail" of stuff wouldn't have kept going on and on throughout the week.
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This seems very logical. I still find it odd, and I don't have any friends from that area on facebook, that it hasn't gotten out via facebook or Twitter that so-and-so wasn't in school Wednesday night. Regardless of how quiet authorities try to keep information, I'm just surprised something hasn't leaked out. And if that's what is keeping Holly alive, then I'm all for it.
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wildnkrazykat said:
i don't think that murder was the initial plan. whether or not it has/will escalate to that is the scary part, but i'm not convinced that from the get-go that was part of it. if so i think it would have happened quickly w/in reason and the "trail" of stuff wouldn't have kept going on and on throughout the week.
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Not even sure she has been murdered. Left for dead might be a better term.
 
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#536
i still think whoever it was she trusted enough to go talk to. we don't know the area around her house, there is a chance that they had a spot down by the pond or somewhere out in the woods where they had bonfires/parties/etc and she it could have even been her idea to go out there to "talk out" whatever was the issue and that kidnapping wasn't even the initial intention.

people are crazy and desperation makes them act even more unorthodox. if either of them are alive and in the area at this point, one of two things has to be certain imo - someone from the outside is leaving them food/providing shelter/etc or the perp is, as was said earlier, doing his thing during the day and then during the night moving her. heck, at this point it could even be an enslavement type thing where she's locked in someone's basement or outbuilding etc.
 
#537
#537
don't you think if she was intentionally left for dead it would have been in a place where she should/could have been found. i know one thing, if i was tbi/fbi/whoeverbi i would be calling for all trained tracking dogs in this part of the united states and handlers and would have that damn place crawling with them. if they are moving around the woods, she is trackable.
 
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#539
Slydell said:
My thought, too. I don't think any of this was planned other than the confrontation at the house. Something happened and it escalated.
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I've been reading through this thread since the start and figured I'd add in some of my thoughts, too.

Since at least the confrontation was planned prior, why wear camo unless he also had intentions of taking her off into the woods? If he hadn't planned the kidnapping, it seems like he could have just driven up to her house and confronted her that way.

I don't know the standard procedure for man hunts of this nature, but it doesn't seem like they would still be calling this a search and rescue if they didn't have reason to believe that she is still alive.

Because no sketches or names of suspects have been mentioned, it stands to reason that one of two things has happened to prevent that:

1) They know who it is and have reason to believe that the perp hasn't made it far with Holly. Otherwise, if they believed they were no longer in the general vicinity, I think they'd have a name and face plastered everywhere possible.

2) They have no clue who they are looking for and are walking circles hoping to find something.

The worst part for those of us keeping up with this is that we know we don't have all of the information. Probably for good reason, but it makes following this case terribly confusing and even more worrisome.
 
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wildnkrazykat said:
don't you think if she was intentionally left for dead it would have been in a place where she should/could have been found. i know one thing, if i was tbi/fbi/whoeverbi i would be calling for all trained tracking dogs in this part of the united states and handlers and would have that damn place crawling with them. if they are moving around the woods, she is trackable.
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Crossed my mind too. If there have been any blood hounds involved in the search I haven't heard about it.
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#543
#543
I think the authorities know exactly who they are looking for and for some reason do not think that person is a danger to anyone.
 
#544
#544
Search dogs were involved at one point. I remember hearing that one of the dogs had to be carried by its handler because the underbrush was so thick.
 
#546
#546
you worry that all of the media attention for the manhunt might make the perp think he has to kill her and hide the body. keeping her alive makes it more likely he'll be caught. disturbing situation definetely.
 
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#547
wildnkrazykat said:
don't you think if she was intentionally left for dead it would have been in a place where she should/could have been found. i know one thing, if i was tbi/fbi/whoeverbi i would be calling for all trained tracking dogs in this part of the united states and handlers and would have that damn place crawling with them. if they are moving around the woods, she is trackable.
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Not at all. Id think it would be where no one could. Bc leaving her for dead is your last hope of not getting caught. If she's found alive then you are busted. Even if found dead you are busted.
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#549
my daddy was a prison warden and we were talking about this last week and he said that the underbrush should be beneficial with the tracking dogs as it gave more of a place for the "scent" to land/be trapped.
 
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Slydell said:
I think the authorities know exactly who they are looking for and for some reason do not think that person is a danger to anyone.
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I'm thinking this as well..I think that the authorities believe that the perp is getting all the info that's being leaked out about where the search is at a certain time and where they will be searching in the future. I think they know they have a decent lead on him and they're hoping he slips up and makes a mistake they can capitalize on. I've heard a lot in the past day about people thinking that the perp has possibly even helped out with the search..crazy I know but I wouldn't put it past some of the idiots out there in the world.
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