The Impeachment Thread

[volinbham]

You guys are so black and white - things are mostly grey. (continuums)
If he fires her because she insists on carrying out the "official" US foreign policy rather than the unofficial back channel policy being pushed by a lunatic personal lawyer, there maybe be appropriate consequences.

Trump's policies are the official policies. He sets them as the executive.

 

[0nelilreb]

With the appropriate consequences.

Only from the left which is going to screech over everything he does and says anyway so ... it’s all just like a constant babbling brook .

 

[VolnJC]

Apparently that boy's dumb as a bag of hammers ... and fluffier.

They probably put the stomach lap band on his brain accidentally

 

[hog88]

You guys are so black and white - things are mostly grey. (continuums)
If he fires her because she insists on carrying out the "official" US foreign policy rather than the unofficial back channel policy being pushed by a lunatic personal lawyer, there maybe be appropriate consequences.

Whatever the POTUS decides our foreign policy is is our official foreign policy. If she was not following his instructions she was rightfully fired.

 

[Weezer]

Many on your side decided just that with Clinton.
Many on your side decided just that with Obama.
Many on your side pre-determined just that about Hillary.
Many on your side will decide that no matter who the next dem president is.
It's all about how many.....critical mass......and that is exactly the way it has to be, and should be.

lmao I don't have a side. No one tried to impeach Obama for it. Bill Clinton broke an actual crime, and he admitted he did so. You guys keep forgetting he admitted it. And Hillary will never be President. She lost the election. You need to get over that.

Just remember these feels when a Dem is in the Oval Office and the House is controlled by the GOP. Sadly, we'll see something like this again, and you'll be leading the charge about how unfair it is. The Dems are setting the precedent now. No one should be okay with this, yet you allow your Trump hatred to blind you. It's sad.

 

[37L1]

You guys are so black and white - things are mostly grey. (continuums)
If he fires her because she insists on carrying out the "official" US foreign policy rather than the unofficial back channel policy being pushed by a lunatic personal lawyer, there maybe be appropriate consequences.

You are a fine one to talk about us being all black and white. You are black and white when it suits you (TrumP) but you go all fuzzy gray when it comes time for you to back up your black and white position. That's so hypocritical of you to point that out as someone else's failing.

 

[AM64]

Sure it's a dangerous grey area for any person with decision making power: policemen, judges, coaches, CEOs, human resource managers, bosses, teachers, college admissions, the list is endless.

Influence is a valuable commodity.

Trump obviously crossed the line and is well outside of any grey area. His actions were obviously attempted bribery.

Of course, improper use of influence is a serious matter whether direct or just implied. It's not going away in most cases because it's unprovable ... generally a he said - she said type situation with no real proof of meaning, record, or witnesses. You don't see the real harm in a relationship between a president and an intern or one president suggesting to another that a no interference or maybe even some positive press during an election could be helpful and rewarding to both - both a projection of influence. Politics is and always has been about innuendo - all of congress would be in prison otherwise.

 

[JCP201]

Probably more like take her out for a good dinner, get her laid, and for god's sake do something about her hair. I'm thinking about the Good Morning, Vietnam line "You are in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history." Such a fitting comparison between the idiot first shirt and the ambassador.

 

[AM64]

No they don't. I believe Obama fired all of them upon taking office.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/12/obama-gives-political-ambassad.html

Obama did occasionally make a smart move ... sometimes it was even legal, too.

 

[hog88]

LOL

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Whatever the POTUS decides our foreign policy is is our official foreign policy. If she was not following his instructions she was rightfully fired.

She was an Obama appointee holdover & was hell bent not to cooperate with Trump on anything he said.

 

[AM64]

Is it illegal to have an Ambassador surveilled? I would find it hard to believe that it is.
They can. Ambassadors work at the pleasure of the President.
There are no consequences for firing an Ambassador.

Well, they probably won't contribute to the next campaign for another gig.

 

[AM64]

He can't. He can not say you are ambassador as long as you give me $100,000 a month, and then fire the person because the payments stopped.

What about potential ambassadors putting loads into an election campaign in return for an ambassadorial job? Bribery, abuse of power (monetary), ... ? Do you think that's wrong? That kind of thing did a lot to put the Kennedy clan on the political map.

 

[AM64]

Your right Luther. I should know better when conversing with you.

He the sky is blue and water is wet.

Don't confuse him, hog. Sometimes the sky appears gray and wet - could be too much for him to process.

 

[AM64]

I have no clue about Trump TV - never watched it; you must be a much bigger Trump fan than I am. I really couldn't stand Trump, and I certainly never thought I'd vote for him. I abhor his type, but he's actually been fairly good a being president ... if he'd shut up and put the damn phone down.

 

[luthervol]

lmao I don't have a side. No one tried to impeach Obama for it. Bill Clinton broke an actual crime, and he admitted he did so. You guys keep forgetting he admitted it. And Hillary will never be President. She lost the election. You need to get over that.

Just remember these feels when a Dem is in the Oval Office and the House is controlled by the GOP. Sadly, we'll see something like this again, and you'll be leading the charge about how unfair it is. The Dems are setting the precedent now. No one should be okay with this, yet you allow your Trump hatred to blind you. It's sad.

You missed the whole point.
You asked how I would feel if people on the right felt my candidate was "horrendously despicable."
My answer was basically that some always have and some always will.
Just as some people on the left always have and some always will find the rep. candidate despicable.
The difference is in the numbers. 5% feeling that way will not lead to the same consequences as 60% feeling that way.
From day one I talked about critical mass.
And just when did Clinton commit that crime? How far into the investigation (time wise) were they?
His crime didn't trigger any investigation. The investigation lead to him committing a crime. The investigation was started specifically because enough on the right pushed for it due to the fact that they didn't like him.

 

[evillawyer]

Solid

 

[evillawyer]

FYI

 

[VolStrom]

I tried to send Lamar Alexander an email expressing my concern about his wishy-washy support of the President over this sham being rammed down our throats and it was blocked:

Request not Accepted - Security Risk Detected

Request not Accepted​

Your submitted request contained a potential security risk.

Please try your submission again using natively composed plain text (not copied and pasted from another document), with few or no hyperlinks, or other syntax that may be interpreted as computer code (examples: '--', '&').

I typed out a couple of sentences, no links, no special characters, just text. I've determined that this guy is a rino hack and needs to be dispatched like Corker was.

 

[volbeast33]

Read it on the radio. But seriously, I am not seeing the love of Christ in your posts. I am seeing the deceptions and hatreds of the devil. Donald Trump is the scum of the Earth, and you know it.

How so? How has he negatively affected your life?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[hUTch2002]

What witnesses were blocked by Clinton during the house's investigation that were then forced by the courts to testify?
I don't believe there were any. I think you are thinking of the ones forced to testify during the 6 year Starr investigation.

Wasn’t the Starr investigation pretty much the equivalent of the House investigation in this case since they didn’t hire outside investigators? The bottom line is the Dems didn’t play all their cards and now they may be caught holding them.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Solid

Oh look.............you are the vile disgusting person with the company you keep.

 

[luthervol]

Wasn’t the Starr investigation pretty much the equivalent of the House investigation in this case since they didn’t hire outside investigators? The bottom line is the Dems didn’t play all their cards and now they may be caught holding them.

The Starr investigation was more like the Muller investigation. The house investigated a complexly different matter so there was no overlap. The Clinton impeachment was a result of the Starr investigation so the investigative work had already been completed. The two house impeachment investigations are not comparable.