The Impeachment Thread

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Trump is totally f*cked. This is the stuff that - if true - gets Trump convicted in the Senate.

Fox News: Giuliani and 2 Others "Working Off the Books" in Ukraine

Rudy Giuliani was not the only attorney trying to get damaging information on Joe Biden from Ukrainian officials, and President Trump’s decision to withhold aid from Ukraine this summer was made in spite of several federal agencies supporting the aid, Fox News’ Chris Wallace revealed on “Fox News Sunday.”

In addition to Giuliani, Washington, D.C., lawyers Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing worked alongside the former New York City mayor. According to a top U.S. official, the three attorneys were working "off the books" -- not within the Trump administration -- and only the president knows the details of their work.
 
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MontyPython said:
Trump is totally f*cked. This is the stuff that - if true - gets Trump convicted in the Senate.

Fox News: Giuliani and 2 Others "Working Off the Books" in Ukraine

Rudy Giuliani was not the only attorney trying to get damaging information on Joe Biden from Ukrainian officials, and President Trump’s decision to withhold aid from Ukraine this summer was made in spite of several federal agencies supporting the aid, Fox News’ Chris Wallace revealed on “Fox News Sunday.”

In addition to Giuliani, Washington, D.C., lawyers Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing worked alongside the former New York City mayor. According to a top U.S. official, the three attorneys were working "off the books" -- not within the Trump administration -- and only the president knows the details of their work.
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Did you have a problem with John Fraud Kerry secretly meeting “off the books” with Iran while Trump is the prez? Who does Kerry speak with on his return? Trump didn’t send him there.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Was that him when Clinton was being impeached?

Got to tell you, when its Rudy and Lindsey out there front and center for Trump, not a good sign.
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Actually Lindsey has admitted the GOP screwed up trying to impeach Clinton ( last year I believe ) and said they should have never done it , said it’s what got bill re-elected .
 
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Legit question.

Rudy says he was just investigating criminal activity by Biden. Trump says the same thing. Just investigating corruption.

If that is so, why transfer the transcript from one server to the secret one? Why hide it?
 
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bnhunt said:
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Who said this? Lindsey Graham in 1999. You can't cherry pick righties, if you agreed with these statements then, then you must do the same now.
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Funny, you telling people what they must do.
I didn't agree with Clinton being impeached. If Hillary didn't have a problem with Bill being a whoring dog why should i care. That was a man n wife thing.
I see your ability to broad brush hasn't diminished.
 
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MontyPython said:
Heh. It appears to be SOP now to hide politically damaging / crime evidence on a separate server. It should prove interesting to read the Trump/Putin and Trump/MBS transcripts once the forthcoming Subpoenas force the WH to out them.

"In his complaint, the whistle-blower said that unnamed White House officials told him that they had been “‘directed’ by White House lawyers” to remove the record of the call from the National Security Council’s main computer system and load it into one managed by the agency’s intelligence directorate that is not connected to the main system and that requires special permissions and enhanced security clearances to access."
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So there is an ongoing implication that this was Trump’s lawyers... Rudy, Sekulow etc... it was not. It was NSC lawyers whom directed this. And the markings on the document dictate where they are stored and the NSC was acting appropriately. And every classified document has an itemized number and it’s exact location is known at all times. Anybody who knows anything about handling classified info laughs at this whole dialog.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Legit question.

Rudy says he was just investigating criminal activity by Biden. Trump says the same thing. Just investigating corruption.

If that is so, why transfer the transcript from one server to the secret one? Why hide it?
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Because for the 100th time! Upon creation of the damn document the markings dictate that it be contained in a container certified to its level of classification!!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So there is an ongoing implication that this was Trump’s lawyers... Rudy, Sekulow etc... it was not. It was NSC lawyers whom directed this. And the markings on the document dictate where they are stored and the NSC was acting appropriately. And every classified document has an itemized number and it’s exact location is known at all times. Anybody who knows anything about handling classified info laughs at this whole dialog.
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That classification was made after people that were listening to the call realized what Trump had done. It was a bogus classification, concocted to hide the politically damaging fact that Trump was extorting information and cooperation from a foreign leader. Nice try though.
 
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