The Impeachment Thread

You realize the left is more than happy to give up Biden to trash Trump, right?

Y'all need to get your story straight. Some of y'all are saying he is the presumptive nominee and most likely to beat Trump. Get it together man.
 
Y'all need to get your story straight. Some of y'all are saying he is the presumptive nominee and most likely to beat Trump. Get it together man.
The number one thing is defeating Trump. This Ukraine issue is going to increase the odds for the democratic nominee, regardless of who it is.
 
No. It the opposite.

They are broadcasting the blatant disdain your own party has in its ranks.
We are all watching the Democrat party crumble before our very own eyes. We are watching history being made.
I've heard this crap forever about Democrats' crumbling. I've heard it before about the end of the GOP as well.

Guess what? Neither party is going anywhere.
 
Yes, it did. Trump withheld hundreds of millions in military aid to the Ukraine just days prior to July 25th. There was no reason for that. Trump has since tried to spin it, that it was because he wanted to force other countries to help the Ukraine... but that is ridiculous. It was not known by any other country at the time that those funds had been withheld. Congress had already approved those funds. That was leverage.

So...you don't have any proof?
 
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Well it's starting to crumble for Biden and he might end up taking Obama's legacy with him
 
Pelosi already announced the impeachment process before she even read the transcript or the complaint. She was sure she had something impeachment worthy so she pressed ahead.

That's like putting on a condom before going clubbing knowing you're gonna get some.

However, she admitted to knowing the content:

Nancy Pelosi on Trump impeachment inquiry, Ukraine president phone call and the whistleblower in 60 minutes interview - CBS News



Oh, wait. It was on a secured server, not in the public domain. Yet, she called for the impeachment hearing even BEFORE the transcript had been released and she hadn't read it:

WATCH: Pelosi Slams Ukraine Call After Admitting She Hasn’t Read Transcript

Then there's this:

Schiff Got Early Account of Accusations as Whistle-Blower’s Concerns Grew

Which part of this doesn't scream "setup" to you?

The part that ignores and rewrites history.
Pelosi said she read what was in the public domain. The contents of the call were in the NYT. There were like 15 reps who came out in favor of impeachment, including a half-dozen moderates, before Pelosi even announced she was holding a presser. Her goal was to keep the party together, the means to doing that shifted at the point where those moderates shifted to impeachment.

The part that ignores that a bipartisan group of senators came out and said what happened with Schiff is standard.

You keep saying “what if it was your case.”

That’s pure ignorance of what I do. I don’t exist to go balls out and throw Hail Marys to try to win every hopeless case. I give sound legal counsel based on my experience and then pursue whatever the client decides to do with everything I’ve got.

If my client’s freedom depended on something that easily explained and trying to argue that the police weren’t following their own procedures when my client is on record confessing to most of the elements of the crime, acting like he had a good case would be malpractice.
 
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That's actually a pretty effective ad. I think they took the Bern out of context though.

Still doesn't excuse Trump from being impeached for his wrong-doing and blatant disregard for law, decency, and using his office to attack a political rival with a bribe to a foreign government.

If Trump didn't want this to happen, he probably shouldn't have been such a shady douche canoe.
 
The part that ignores and rewrites history.
Pelosi said she read what was in the public domain. The contents of the call were in the NYT. There were like 15 reps who came out in favor of impeachment, including a half-dozen moderates, before Pelosi even announced she was holding a presser. Her goal was to keep the party together, the means to doing that shifted at the point where those moderates shifted to impeachment.

The part that ignores that a bipartisan group of senators came out and said what happened with Schiff is standard.

You keep saying “what if it was your case.”

That’s pure ignorance of what I do. I don’t exist to go balls out and throw Hail Marys to try to win every hopeless case. I give sound legal counsel based on my experience and then pursue whatever the client decides to do with everything I’ve got.

If my client’s freedom depended on something that easily explained and trying to argue that the police weren’t following their own procedures when my client is on record confessing to most of the elements of the crime, acting like he had a good case would be malpractice.

The contents weren't in the NYT. The alleged contents were in the NYT brought to them by "sources."

Obviously, sources have been really successful so far...
 
I think the left is more than happy to give up Biden to trash Trump. Nobody, except maybe the Biden campaign, is losing sleep over this right now.

Yeah, then who do you have? The leftist consensus of Sanders (Moscow Honeymooning Socialist), Warren (self proclaimed native American, ooops!) or Kamala (Quid Pro Hoe). Trump is no prize, but geeez, next to these clowns he's almost palatable.
 
I've heard this crap forever about Democrats' crumbling. I've heard it before about the end of the GOP as well.

Guess what? Neither party is going anywhere.

Well, not anywhere fast. I somewhat agree with you.
 
Interesting tidbit. Did you know that "dumpster" came from the "Dempster Dumpster", that was developed by the Dempster brothers ... and one of the brothers, George, was Knoxville mayor back in the old Cas Walker heydays (the 50's)?
Interesting yes I actually met Cas Walker a time or two when I bagged groceries for him. Also dated a gal as a youngster who later married into the Dempster family.
 
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So...you don't have any proof?
The timing of when the military aid to the Ukraine was withheld (with a ridiculous excuse given as to why, after the fact) in conjunction with what we can see in the transcript of the July 25th phone call between Trump and Zelensky, should serve as sufficient proof to a reasonable and objective person as to what Trump was doing. If you are of a mind to believe the allegations against Biden (absent proof), then this really shouldn't require much of a leap at all for you. However, I will concede that it's another instance of where you see whatever you want to see... depending on your bias. Nobody is objective anymore.
 
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