VolnJC
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It has been posted, you are just slow!I haven't seen this posted yet, this was from ABC News today, and it concerns this "2nd whistleblower" who has has now spoken with the Inspector General, Michael Atkinson...
"2nd Whistleblower Comes Forward After Speaking With IG: Attorney" By James Gordon Meek and Anne Flaherty of ABC News on October 6, 2019 at 10:54 AM ET
Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarm on President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and triggered an impeachment inquiry, tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.
Zaid tells ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos that the second person -- also described as an intelligence official -- has first-hand knowledge of some of the allegations outlined in the original complaint and has been interviewed by the head of the intelligence community's internal watchdog office, Michael Atkinson.
The existence of a second whistleblower -- particularly one who can speak directly about events involving the president related to conversations involving Ukraine -- could undercut Trump's repeated insistence that the original complaint, released on Sept. 26, was "totally inaccurate".
I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote the guy you were replying to.No. Just most of what they do, on both sides, is seize more power at the Federal level as supposed to leaving things to the states. Same with the executive branch.
Why are you in such a hurry for a vote? The impeachment of Bill Clinton was initiated on October 8, 1998 when the United States House of Representatives voted to commence impeachment proceedings. That was a month after Clinton's testimony before Ken Starr had been made public. The actual vote on impeachment in the House did not take place until December 19th... over two months after the impeachment proceedings had begun. The Democrats in the House of Representatives have a right to build a case for impeachment, just as Republicans did in 1998.VOTE!!
Nailed it. I think most rational thinking Americans will agree with this.
Do not care about Clinton!!! Dems think it is a slam dunk case!! So just vote.Why are you in such a hurry for a vote? The impeachment of Bill Clinton was initiated on October 8, 1998 when the United States House of Representatives voted to commence impeachment proceedings. That was a month after Clinton's testimony before Ken Starr had been made public. The actual vote on impeachment in the House did not take place until December 19th... over two months after the impeachment proceedings had begun. The Democrats in the House of Representatives have a right to build a case for impeachment, just as Republicans did in 1998.
In other words, you are a political partisan. You didn't care when Republicans held a prolonged inquiry in 1998, when they had already made up their minds on how they were going to vote. A public inquiry into a President's conduct only bothers you when the President is a Republican.Do not care about Clinton!!! Dems think it is a slam dunk case!! So just vote.
Ok I agree with that. And what we are dealing with now is the “appearance of impropriety” in which Trump isn’t helping himself as usual for sure. At this point I’m wondering if he’s doing it just to see if he can get any of the lib leadership to pop a blood vessel as nobody in their right mind believes he is going to get removed from office over this. FFS we now have a 2nd IC “whistleblower” consulting with the NYT that they are considering filing a complaint. First off that’s just an IC threat, 2nd even going to the press is a major breach of the whistleblower protocol, and third if this “whistleblower” has given one piece of information to the NYT they’ve likely broken the law and lost all whistleblower protections anyway and the correct title is “leaker”.
It looks like a bad game of stupidity chicken seeing which side can out do the other. But one side is laughing their ass off knowing they are in the position of power and likely trolling while the other has sheer terror and acting from desperation. And on here you will see people talking right past each other on which side is which and I do find that highly entertaining
Have you said ANYTHING NEGATIVE against a DEM?In other words, you are a political partisan. You didn't care when Republicans held a prolonged inquiry in 1998, when they had already made up their minds on how they were going to vote. A public inquiry into a President's conduct only bothers you when the President is a Republican.
Oh, really? What are Republicans going to do about it? Call Schiff some mean names (like Schitt, again)? Democrats have control of the House of Representatives by 38 seats and Adam Schiff is very popular (Schiff won reelection in 2018 with 78.4% of the vote) in a deep blue district (28th) and the biggest and bluest state in the country (California).****** Schiff is toast now with his credibility being shot all to hell.
The DEMS can VOTE!!!!Oh, really? What are Republicans going to do about it? Call Schiff some mean names (like Schitt, again)? Democrats have control of the House of Representatives by 38 seats and Adam Schiff is very popular (Schiff won reelection in 2018 with 78.4% of the vote) in a deep blue district (28th) and the biggest and bluest state in the country (California).
This is all empty and meaningless talk. There is NOTHING that Republicans can do.
The supporters aren'tt the ones confirmed to be idiots by this post. Trump never mentioned the aid. He'd already withheld the aid by the time the call happened. Ukraine didn't know it had been withheld for a month.Honestly, the fact that Trump supporters willingly fund his campaign AFTER it's been revealed he bribed a foreign country with YOUR tax money... this pretty much confirms they're idiots.
Grats.
I haven’t seen any evidence of an explicit quid pro quo aside from the “I want you to do is a favor though.” Which, if you want to parse it, wasn’t explicitly tied to the funds.
I do think there’s an implicit quid pro quo, but again, I find nothing inherently wrong with that.
Just trying to remember other recent quid pro quo’s:
Nobody cared that Obama asked things of Iran before giving them that money. There were plenty of people who thought he should have gotten more. Plenty of people who thought he shouldn’t have given them anything. Nobody said “oh but that was a quid pro quo.”