The Impeachment Thread

Which side are you talking about here? Because it seems like that was exactly what Trump was trying to do with the President of Ukraine.


Disagree. The point was not to dig up dirt, non existent dirt, on Biden. It was simply to be able to use Trump's favorite ploy of: "some people are saying"
 
Hunter Biden being employed by Ukraine and now China is not a good look. It's not just for personal gain. I don't find this any worse than using the Steele dossier for a FISA warrant.
Yes, Trump was only interested in this to the extent that it could be used against Joe Biden in the campaign. It is naive to think otherwise.
 
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Hunter Biden being employed by Ukraine and now China is not a good look. It's not just for personal gain. I don't find this any worse than using the Steele dossier for a FISA warrant.

Cool story, bro. Ted Nugent called... he wants his shirt back.
 
Disagree. The point was not to dig up dirt, non existent dirt, on Biden. It was simply to be able to use Trump's favorite ploy of: "some people are saying"

Man..there are countless articles of impropriety by the Bidens from the past 10 years. More smoke than you ever had on Trump.
 
After further research there is no audio of the transcript. The White House stopped recording calls after 1974.
 
After further research there is no audio of the transcript. The White House stopped recording calls after 1974.

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Truth is truth. It's gotta be painful knowing democrats are walking away because of DNC policy and completely inept leadership and coming to Trump rallies in huge numbers. 31% at his last rally were registered dims.
Did they take a poll? I would like to see it.
 
Exercise in wishful thinking perhaps? IMO centrist and right leaning Democrats are more afraid of what the Republican Party has become than they ever will be of extremist Democrats.

Wrong . Not just a little wrong but really wrong . True center and right of center leaning southern dems absolutely are afraid of what extreme progressive liberals have done to the party .
 
Nancy Pelosi just made one of the most colossal blunders in modern American politics

On Tuesday evening Nancy Pelosi made one of the most colossal blunders in the modern history of American electoral politics. Rejecting the accumulated wisdom of a long and successful career in the House of Representatives, she set aside her own instincts and announced the beginning of formal impeachment proceedings against President Trump on the basis of a third-hand rumor about a phone call with the president of a Eurasian republic.

Pelosi knows this will not be popular. She knows more than that. She knows that it will be a disaster for the Democratic Party, that it will inflame the president's base and inspire even his most lukewarm supporters with a sense of outrage.

She knows that in states like Michigan, upon which her party's chances in 2020 will depend, the question of impeachment does not poll well.

She knows, further, that Joe Biden will not be able to spend the next 14 or so months refusing to answer questions about the activities of his son, Hunter, in Ukraine, and that increased scrutiny of the vice president's record in office will not rebound to his credit. She and her fellow Democratic leaders had better hope that someone like Elizabeth Warren manages to steal the nomination away from him before this defines his candidacy the way that Hillary Clinton's emails and paid speechmaking did during and after the 2016 primaries.

Why? Because her hand has been forced. The same members of her caucus who have clamored for Trump's impeachment on the basis of his immigration policy, his non-existent collusion with Russian authorities during the last presidential election, and his ownership of various hotels have once again lighted upon high crimes and misdemeanors.

Nancy Pelosi just made one of the most colossal blunders in modern American politics


I have to wonder whether Nancy was expecting Trump to stonewall on the transcript. I think he waited for her to make this move before releasing it.
 
Wrong . Not just a little wrong but really wrong . True center and right of center leaning southern dems absolutely are afraid of what extreme progressive liberals have done to the party .
"...right of center leaning southern dems"? That doesn't sound like a very large demographic.
 
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