The Impeachment Thread

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Notice how some of Trump's defenders are starting to shift from "there was no quid-pro-quo" to "it's not an impeachable offense". In light of Trump insisting for a month that there was no quid-pro-quo offer made to Zelensky, that will be a tough sell. Why deny that it happened, if there was nothing wrong with it?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Notice how some of Trump's defenders are starting to shift from "there was no quid-pro-quo" to "it's not an impeachable offense". In light of Trump insisting for a month that there was no quid-pro-quo offer made to Zelensky, that will be a tough sell. Why deny that it happened, if there was nothing wrong with it?
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Unfortunately it will not be a tough sell to Trumpers. They bought it the second it was stated.
It will be a tough sell to the 10% in the middle, the group that really holds the cards; if only they just knew how to play them.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Notice how some of Trump's defenders are starting to shift from "there was no quid-pro-quo" to "it's not an impeachable offense". In light of Trump insisting for a month that there was no quid-pro-quo offer made to Zelensky, that will be a tough sell. Why deny that it happened, if there was nothing wrong with it?
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I don't think they really care what Trump does, hence the wildly shifting defensive tactics being utilized.
 
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luthervol said:
Unfortunately it will not be a tough sell to Trumpers. They bought it the second it was stated.
It will be a tough sell to the 10% in the middle, the group that really holds the cards; if only they just knew how to play them.
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Both parties have a rock solid 44% that won't leave them no matter what. I think the middle is more like 12%, and he will start to lose most of it, if he now concedes that there was a quid-pro-quo offer, but insists that there is nothing wrong with that. He was insistent from the very beginning of this story, that there was no quid-pro-quo. Politically speaking, he will be taking a big chance to abandon that position.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I don't think they really care what Trump does, hence the wildly shifting defensive tactics being utilized.
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Trump can't win reelection with just his base, unless there is a strong 3rd party candidate in the race. He needs at least some moderate and independent support. That is what he is losing right now. Rasmussen Reports has his approval rating at 44% today. That represents 100% of his base, but nothing else.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Notice how some of Trump's defenders are starting to shift from "there was no quid-pro-quo" to "it's not an impeachable offense". In light of Trump insisting for a month that there was no quid-pro-quo offer made to Zelensky, that will be a tough sell. Why deny that it happened, if there was nothing wrong with it?
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It's now a "Quid Pro, So?"
 
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Stew Cook said:
It's now a "Quid Pro, So?"
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump can't win reelection with just his base, unless there is a strong 3rd party candidate in the race. He needs at least some moderate and independent support. That is what he is losing right now. Rasmussen Reports has his approval rating at 44% today. That represents 100% of his base, but nothing else.
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Largely following the Stormy playbook.
 
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This is a sad statement on the kind of government Trump is running. You redhats should be proud.

The former ambassador sought advice from Gordon Sondland, the ambassador to the European Union, who recommended that she tweet out praise for Trump. “You know the sorts of things he likes,” Sondland said, according to Yovanovitch. “You know, go out there battling aggressively and, you know, praise him or support him.”
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Shoot, i wish i could gone up ther and met you.
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Great weekend. Had a couple of Chili dogs at NAPA Auto parts in Sweetwater, then a great tailgate by the Torchbearer, great game, great half-time show, and great after game party. The UAB fans with us even enjoyed themselves.
 
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