The Impeachment Thread

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zeppelin128 said:
It is what has kept him afloat for three years. If it wasn't for all his other baggage, he would win 2020 by a Reagan-esque landslide.

Goes to show how terrible of a President and person he is that even with this economy he can barely muster 40% approval.
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...and the economy is slowing but his spending is not.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Biden is the front runner, and he will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. Biden also leads Trump in both Arizona and Nevada, as well as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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Biden is finished...even his staff is talking candidly about his inability to do anything other than deliver his standard stump speech...he has less cash on hand than Kamala Harris and she is closing offices in early states
Cash shortage hits Dem presidential field
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think they have Stockholm Syndrome and desperately want Hillary or Kerry to run.
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They understand that Biden is a serious threat, just as Trump does. Trump would not have been trying so hard to investigate Hunter Biden, if Joe wasn't running for president. Trump obviously doesn't want to face Biden in the general election.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Wait until the rubber meets the road. If you think the public is in favor, then you are obligated to impeach the m'fer. Do it! Just do it.
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The real indicator that Trump will be impeached and removed is if the stock market starts to turn for the worse. Investors like stability and with recent record performance they are unconcerned just as I am with all of this.

If you consider, the Dems are already more fractured on this issue than the Repubs and no way in Hades the Senate will remove him, much to the gnashing of teeth.
 
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VolnJC said:
Biden is finished...even his staff is talking candidly about his inability to do anything other than deliver his standard stump speech...he has less cash on hand than Kamala Harris and she is closing offices in early states
Cash shortage hits Dem presidential field
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That is wishful thinking... and I don't blame you. Biden leads Trump head to head in every state that the Democratic Party candidate will need to win.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They understand that Biden is a serious threat just as Trump does. Trump would not have been trying so hard to investigate Hunter Biden, if Joe wasn't running for president. Trump obviously doesn't want to face Biden in the general election.
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I think that is pretty obvious that they view him as a threat. Otherwise Trump wouldn't have sent his chihuahua Rudy to Ukraine to try and dig up some dirt on Biden and son.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Biden will definitely be the nominee. He doesn't inspire the party on ideology or policy but he is the pragmatic choice and the best opposition to Trump. That is the most important factor - by far. And once again, you are kidding yourself on impeachment. There is no reason not to do it. Trump is unpopular, and the American people are in favor of it.
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When Biden first announced and was far, far ahead, I predicted that Biden would not be the nominee because I have seen him for 40 years. I gave 4 possible reasons.

1) Biden would step on his d!ck one too many times, meaning he would say something really, really stupid. He is a human gaffe machine. They are trying to hide him like they did Hillary for a different reason.

2) His health could go bad. Just a possibility because it is a grueling grind for these guys, and he has a few years on him.

3) He gets caught up in Russiagate/Spygate spying on Trump. If they can prove he is connected once all the facts come out. I don't know if he is or isn't involved.

4) He/his son's connections to Ukraine/China.

All 4 of these are still on the table. Could be more than one of them take him out before it's over.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think that is pretty obvious that they view him as a threat. Otherwise Trump wouldn't have sent his chihuahua Rudy to Ukraine to try and dig up some dirt on Biden and son.
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Right... and how much time have they spent on Warren or Sanders? None. The entire focus of Trump has been on Biden. I think that helps Joe's case for being the best equipped to defeat Trump.
 
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1972 Grad said:
When Biden first announced and was far, far ahead, I predicted that Biden would not be the nominee because I have seen him for 40 years. I gave 4 possible reasons.

1) Biden would step on his d!ck one too many times, meaning he would say something really, really stupid. He is a human gaffe machine. They are trying to hide him like they did Hillary for a different reason.

2) His health could go bad. Just a possibility because it is a grueling grind for these guys, and he has a few years on him.

3) He gets caught up in Russiagate/Spygate spying on Trump. If they can prove he is connected once all the facts come out. I don't know if he is or isn't involved.

4) He/his son's connections to Ukraine/China.

All 4 of these are still on the table. Could be more than one of them take him out before it's over.
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1) Trump steps on himself every day, either on Twitter or some other dumb interview.

2) Trump is an old fart himself. He is fat and out of shape. By no means a picture of fitness.

3) Biden had nothing to do with that, and it has no legs anyway.

4) There is no evidence to support that Joe Biden was guilty of anything improper in the Ukraine. Kurt Volker testified that there was nothing to support Trump's conspiracy theory.

This is all just wishful thinking. I don't care that you have been saying it for a long time. It hasn't suddenly become accurate. You don't want Trump to have to face Joe Biden because he would be much tougher to beat in the general election. Sorry, but Republicans don't get to choose our party nominee.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Right... and how much time have they spent on Warren or Sanders? None. The entire focus of Trump has been on Biden. I think that helps Joe's case for being the best equipped to defeat Trump.
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Warren and Sanders weren't bragging about a quid pro quo that his son was involved in, and aren't rumored to have been mired in Ukrainian attempts to tamper with the 2016 election.

You question is similar to asking why they didn't go after Neil Diamond when they arrested Charles Manson. Well. duh. They weren't into the same ****.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Then you are kidding yourself. There are no political consequences right now, for impeaching Trump. The public is in favor of it. There were only two defections last week on the vote in favor of the inquiry. That served as a de facto preliminary vote on impeachment itself. A test run, if you will.
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Echo chamber
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Warren and Sanders weren't bragging about a quid pro quo that his son was involved in, and aren't rumored to have been mired in Ukrainian attempts to tamper with the 2016 election.

You question is similar to asking why they didn't go after Neil Diamond when they arrested Charles Manson. Well. duh. They weren't into the same ****.
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Completely discredited by the testimony of Kurt Volker.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Completely discredited by the testimony of Kurt Volker.
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You haven't even heard the testimony of Kurt Volker. lol

But thanks for proving my point. Your entire argument about why Biden went into the crosshairs as apposed to Bernie or Warren (or any other Dem candidate) depends on mountains of assumptions, things you don't know, and one hell of a huge excluded middle fallacy.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You haven't even heard the testimony of Kurt Volker. lol

But thanks for proving my point. Your entire argument about why Biden went into the crosshairs as apposed to Bernie or Warren (or any other Dem candidate) depends on mountains of assumptions, things you don't know, and one hell of a huge excluded middle fallacy.
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You are so ignorant. Volker's opening statement is available to read online in multiple places... as well as much of the context of what he testified to.
 
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1972 Grad said:
When Biden first announced and was far, far ahead, I predicted that Biden would not be the nominee because I have seen him for 40 years. I gave 4 possible reasons.

1) Biden would step on his d!ck one too many times, meaning he would say something really, really stupid. He is a human gaffe machine. They are trying to hide him like they did Hillary for a different reason.

2) His health could go bad. Just a possibility because it is a grueling grind for these guys, and he has a few years on him.

3) He gets caught up in Russiagate/Spygate spying on Trump. If they can prove he is connected once all the facts come out. I don't know if he is or isn't involved.

4) He/his son's connections to Ukraine/China.

All 4 of these are still on the table. Could be more than one of them take him out before it's over.
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Another reason is that the progressives hate him and he would have more trouble winning the primary than the general
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They understand that Biden is a serious threat, just as Trump does. Trump would not have been trying so hard to investigate Hunter Biden, if Joe wasn't running for president. Trump obviously doesn't want to face Biden in the general election.
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Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are so ignorant. Volker's opening statement is available to read online in multiple places... as well as much of the context of what he testified to.
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I'm the ignorant one, when you just agreed with me about not reading his testimony? Tisk, tisk.

And, at the risk of repeating myself. Thanks for proving my point. Your entire argument about why Biden went into the crosshairs as opposed to Bernie or Warren (or any other Dem candidate) depends on mountains of assumptions, things you don't know, and one hell of a huge excluded middle fallacy.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself?
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I don't care what you believe.... Trump wouldn't have pushed so hard for investigation into Biden's son, if Joe Biden wasn't running for president. Any idiot can see that... and Biden leads Trump head to head in every poll and has from the start. It's a bad match up for Trump.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think that is pretty obvious that they view him as a threat. Otherwise Trump wouldn't have sent his chihuahua Rudy to Ukraine to try and dig up some dirt on Biden and son.
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Of course they view him as a threat. They are trying to help him out of the race. Why do you think we are hearing all of the Ukraine stuff? They are driving up his negatives, just in case Biden doesn't drive his own up enough by being clueless. His handlers and the media are covering for him. The frontrunner is always going to draw the most fire.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't care what you believe.... Trump wouldn't have pushed so hard for investigation into Biden's son, if Joe Biden wasn't running for president. Any idiot can see that... and Biden leads Trump head to head in every poll and has from the start. It's a bad match up for Trump.
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