The Impeachment Thread

I think you prefer even more words instead of yes or no. I even highlighted the important bits for you. You allergic to them? If so, you can just cut and paste.

This is a fun game you play.

If you're looking for me to dumb down my posts so you can keep up, you're going to be dissapointed.
 
I started to do the weigh my choices and....

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Vote your pocketbook, nothing else matters.
 
I agree... but I do think that Joe Biden will be the party nominee. He is a career politician, which I don't like... and he has an inconsistent voting record. He voted for the Iraq War, which would usually be a non-starter with me. His messaging has been all over the place, similar to John Kerry, but the bottom line is that he can win. I think he will.

It's hard to disagree with this. I think it's important that we all come to terms with the fact that anyone looking to be the most powerful person on the planet probably comes with deep and dangerous character flaws.
 
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And from the top rope the quid pro quo Killa

1) That is not true. Top Ukrainian officials were told in early August about the delay of $391 million in security assistance.

2) The hold on the aid was not released until the White House became aware of the whistleblower's complaint which was filed in the middle of August. They had to release it then. They knew a scandal was coming down the pike.

3) Ukraine didn't have to do anything, because of the whistleblower complaint. That changed everything. The freeze on the aid absolutely had to be lifted once that happened.

The timeline corroborates a quid-pro-quo perfectly.
 
Also the Ukrainian President repeated over and over he never felt pressured to do anything. This will end up being another waste of time/money
I feel like this is about the 100th time I have said this... Zelensky has to say that while Trump is still in office. He needs backing from the U.S. right now. He is in a tight spot here and understandably doesn't want to be placed in the middle of our politics.
 
Also the Ukrainian President repeated over and over he never felt pressured to do anything. This will end up being another waste of time/money

Ha! The guy getting money supports the guy who gave him money.

So everyone else - including Sondland - is lying under oath? Is that your new story?
 
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From Washington Post:

“I understood that satisfying Mr. Giuliani was a condition for scheduling the White House visit,” Sondland said.

First off, it is positively bonkers that all of these high-ranking officials are being ordered by the president to shape U.S. foreign policy with “satisfying Mr. Giuliani” as their primary goal. As Sondland testified, Trump “just kept saying: Talk to Rudy, talk to Rudy.”

This is classic Trump - trying to be a mob boss by creating a firewall between him and the dumbass jerks he has do his dirty work (See: Michael Cohen - in prison).

FAIL
 
Yep, he committed perjury, ergo his attorney advised him to provide a revision. This was patently obvious to Committee members who remarked that he likely lied previously.

And, yeah, he's part of Trump's super group of liars.

Par for the course for Trumpettes. These sad republicans and Trump fans are in for a reality bltch slap.
 
Except Muller didn't find collusion Between Trump and Russia. If he did, as a lot of you like to say,why did he not charge one single person in Trumps sphere with it?
It’s the exact same subpoena procedure that was set up in 1998. I posted the Clinton resolution earlier in the thread.[/QUOTE]
It’s obvious that very few people on here actually READ the Mueller report. Only reciting the talking points.

The report cited all types of collusion. He was not investigating “collusion” because collusion is not a crime. He was investigating conspiracy to see if it met the legal definition. The report showed plenty of collusion, but stated that as it relates to conspiracy, he didn’t believe that there was enough evidence to support a conviction.

Very similar to the conclusions reached in the Hillary investigations.
 
I feel like this is about the 100th time I have said this... Zelensky has to say that while Trump is still in office. He needs backing from the U.S. right now. He is in a tight spot here and understandably doesn't want to be placed in the middle of our politics.
What? You think making sure Russia doesn’t annex his country is a higher priority for him than Trump’s impeachment?
 
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I feel like this is about the 100th time I have said this... Zelensky has to say that while Trump is still in office. He needs backing from the U.S. right now. He is in a tight spot here and understandably doesn't want to be placed in the middle of our politics.
Did you come up with that crap story all by yourself?
 
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Replying to Dr Dread

It just doesn't register to some of Trump's defenders on here that there is anything beyond Barr:s opinion piece. Either that, or they just really don't want to know...

Well, and it's always possible that some of Trump's apparent supporters, on here, are actually just getting their kicks by trolling those critical of Trump.
 

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