The Intel Leaks Thread

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#202
Vol8188 said:
Literally no literate person can read this as “I have ts clearance therefore I deserve special access!”

So don’t blame me for your inability to comprehend basic English. I specifically stated democracy/republicanism and voting as the reasons why we need access, not my clearance level.
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Yep my reading comprehension is to blame for asking a specific follow up to that very post and getting a very specific answer. Glad we settled that 😂
 
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#208
Franklin Pierce said:
Who are the fools that signed off on giving Top Secret security clearance to a 21 year old?
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The most common age is probably 18. They ask a few teachers and neighbors if you’re alright and that’s about it. At 18 you probably don’t own any foreign stock or have a criminal history
 
#211
#211
Franklin Pierce said:
No 21 year old should be given Top Secret security clearance.
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That isn’t a workable solution to efficiently run the DoD. The key is vetting. Which clearly they screwed the pooch on here based on how they are describing this kid’s mental state and thought process.
 
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#214
Vol8188 said:
The most common age is probably 18. They ask a few teachers and neighbors if you’re alright and that’s about it. At 18 you probably don’t own any foreign stock or have a criminal history
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From your MOS I’m guessing you had COMSEC endorsement also? The vetting process is much more detailed on that I believe? Or you noted nothing special during the process?

I have a couple of friends who worked nuke and their background checks sounded like a nightmare
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
From your MOS I’m guessing you had COMSEC endorsement also? The vetting process is much more detailed on that I believe? Or you noted nothing special during the process?

I have a couple of friends who worked nuke and their background checks sounded like a nightmare
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I remember there were different variants of ts. But I don’t recall the actual name. I remember sitting in front of two men asking me questions about owning foreign stock, having foreign acquaintances (I had a friend from college who was Brazilian), and I remember doing a ton of paperwork to include names of neighbors, teachers, etc.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I remember there were different variants of ts. But I don’t recall the actual name. I remember sitting in front of two men asking me questions about owning foreign stock, having foreign acquaintances (I had a friend from college who was Brazilian), and I remember doing a ton of paperwork to include names of neighbors, teachers, etc.
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Yeah there are various vetting degrees based on what your access is even after TS from my experience. I describe the basic TS as getting into a lobby with nothing in it. Thus mine and your replies on why it is common for 18-21 year olds to have it. The military couldn’t function without it.

But off that lobby are specific officies each with their own key. Each key is a SAP/SAR individual clearance. Might be trivial. Might climb up your ass with a microscope. Just depends on the office’s needs. I’d always heard COMSEC endorsement was a bit more stringent but don’t know. I’d assumed you’d have to have COMSEC but that admittedly is a guess is all.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeah there are vetting degrees based on what your access is even after TS from my experience. I describe the basic TS as getting into a lobby with nothing in it. Thus mine and your replies on why it is common for 18-21 year olds to have it. The military couldn’t function without it.

But off that lobby are specific officies each with their own key. Each key is a SAP/SAR individual clearance. Might be trivial. Might climb up your ass with a microscope. Just depends on the office’s needs. I’d always heard COMSEC endorsement was a bit more stringent but don’t know. I’d assume you’d have to have COMSEC bot that admittedly is a guess is all.
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Depends on your base. CP does deal with nucs for sure but if you’re not at a nuc base (I was at a fighter wing) you don’t have to go through the same hoops. So there was some level of access we had regarding specifics of nuclear procedures, but at a fighter base we were focused more so on defcons. Which is why I have a major pet peeve about people using the phrase “defcon 5” because they have it completely backwards.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
From your MOS I’m guessing you had COMSEC endorsement also? The vetting process is much more detailed on that I believe? Or you noted nothing special during the process?

I have a couple of friends who worked nuke and their background checks sounded like a nightmare
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I grew up in and now live in an area with a nuclear weapons facility. I worked there myself for a time as well. It was common place to have two FBI agents show up (unannounced) at your door. They would tell you who they were looking into this time and then the questions began. It could go for an hour or two. They want to know literally everything. Hobbies, who else does he hang around, drinking and sexual habits, etc. That process is no fun. What really got the rumor mill started was when someone was up for a job at the bomb plant and they were denied clearance. Back then most people had L clearance.
 
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Tman44 said:
I grew up in and now live in an area with a nuclear weapons facility. I worked there myself for a time as well. It was common place to have two FBI agents show up (unannounced) at your door. They would tell you who they were looking into this time and then the questions began. It could go for an hour or two. They want to know literally everything. Hobbies, who else does he hang around, drinking and sexual habits, etc. That process is no fun. What really got the rumor mill started was when someone was up for a job at the bomb plant and they were denied clearance. Back then most people had L clearance.
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Do you have any good alien stories? All my security forces friends who worked in the fields believed in aliens and had stories about strange lights and other weird occupancies while they were out there
 
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Vol8188 said:
Depends on your base. CP does deal with nucs for sure but if you’re not at a nuc base (I was at a fighter wing) you don’t have to go through the same hoops. So there was some level of access we had regarding specifics of nuclear procedures, but at a fighter base we were focused more so on defcons. Which is why I have a major pet peeve about people using the phrase “defcon 5” because they have it completely backwards.
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Dammit I had a whole big reply typed out to this and the forum ate it. Basically my question to you and your reply back triggered a Pavlovian response of my own on handling classified information is all. It’s important. And everyone who willfully abuses it should get hammered.
 
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Tman44 said:
I grew up in and now live in an area with a nuclear weapons facility. I worked there myself for a time as well. It was common place to have two FBI agents show up (unannounced) at your door. They would tell you who they were looking into this time and then the questions began. It could go for an hour or two. They want to know literally everything. Hobbies, who else does he hang around, drinking and sexual habits, etc. That process is no fun. What really got the rumor mill started was when someone was up for a job at the bomb plant and they were denied clearance. Back then most people had L clearance.
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That’s exactly the kind of stuff I’m talking about. I can’t imagine living with a permanent microscope up your pooper.
 
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