The Iraq War has cost 3 trillion dollars

Was the Iraq War worth the cost (3 trillion)?

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KB5252 said:
They can fund it until it chokes and it will make no difference. Until they can do away with the teachers union nothing can help.
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According to every democrat I have met, spending more money would only help the students accomplish more. :crazy:
 
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jkell24 said:
They did one hell of a job hiding them then. If having the WMD's is a reason for the U.S. to invade another country than we are just getting started.
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They didn't have the amount they thought they did. Which would have been easily verifiable if Sadaam had not been so evasive and uncooperative with the weapons inspectors. His tactics certainly indicated that he was hiding something and with his past attacks on his own people I would call him being a serious threat a pretty fair statement.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
According to every democrat I have met, spending more money would only help the students accomplish more. :crazy:
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And that is why the teachers union so strongly endorses the democrat party. They seem more than willing to shovel money into the failed educational system.
 
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oklavol said:
Apparently you don't. The reason Bush gave for invading Iraq was because they had WMD's. Apparently they are real hard to find.......or we made a mistake going in.
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Your selective hearing, in now way means that the administration only gave one reason for resuming the war with Iraq.
 
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jkell24 said:
Who is criticizing the soldiers fighting the war? Most of the people, and yes a lot of nut jobs included, are upset with the government not the soldiers.
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Understanding that these people are the government is part of understanding the whole severity of this whole situation. These soldiers are government employees and are doing just as they are told. I know several of soldiers who have been over there and still are, and they have told me what we are doing now is nothing short of miracles for these people compared to what they had to deal with before we got there. No matter what the original reason we went over was, we are there now and we have to do the job we are capable of or have to live with genocide later. Trust me, nothing would make terrorists more bold than if we were to leave and they could help plunge Iraq into civil war.
 
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Volnissniss said:
I don't give a damn if it costs 6 trillion. We were attacked and nobody messes with us. There are things we have to do to ensure a future for our children and our childrens children. I'd say it is a humble offering at best.
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Iraq did not attack us.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
No they didn't, but the terrorist groups that trained there did. I guess those suicide and roadside bombs are only set off by disgruntled Iraqi citizens.
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You mean the terror groups that trained there after 9/11 and the beginning of the second Iraq war.
 
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emainvol said:
You mean the terror groups that trained there after 9/11 and the beginning of the second Iraq war.
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Don't even try that. Terrorism has been prevalent in the entire Middle East for a long time and that includes Iraq. We had more reasons at the time to go into Iraq than just the WMD reason. Yes, even I know that getting oil is a reason as well. I don't see how helping secure resources for your country is a bad thing.
 
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emainvol said:
You mean the terror groups that trained there after 9/11 and the beginning of the second Iraq war.
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There were camps in place before the invasion of Iraq. That is reason enough considering Sadaam's past. He thought that Al Qaida would help to deter any plans America had of dealing with him. Once again he was wrong.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Don't even try that. Terrorism has been prevalent in the entire Middle East for a long time and that includes Iraq. We had more reasons at the time to go into Iraq than just the WMD reason. Yes, even I know that getting oil is a reason as well. I don't see how helping secure resources for your country is a bad thing.
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I am not arguing that, but those groups in Iraq were not focused on us before we entered the country, you really can't argue that.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Don't even try that. Terrorism has been prevalent in the entire Middle East for a long time and that includes Iraq. We had more reasons at the time to go into Iraq than just the WMD reason. Yes, even I know that getting oil is a reason as well. I don't see how helping secure resources for your country is a bad thing.
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That worked really well didn't it? How much is a barrel of oil now? I don't think $3 trillion is a fair trade.
 
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Correct, Saddam actually ramped up his efforts to convince Iran, and the rest of the world, that he had WMD capabilities once he believed we were pre-occupied with AQ and the Taliban. One bluff too many.
 
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KB5252 said:
There were camps in place before the invasion of Iraq. That is reason enough considering Sadaam's past. He thought that Al Qaida would help to deter any plans America had of dealing with him. Once again he was wrong.
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Saddam Hussein was secular, Al Qaeda was very radical and religious, you will never convince me they were working together.

Al Qaeda was probably just as happy to get Saddam out of the country as everyone else.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Don't even try that. Terrorism has been prevalent in the entire Middle East for a long time and that includes Iraq. We had more reasons at the time to go into Iraq than just the WMD reason. Yes, even I know that getting oil is a reason as well. I don't see how helping secure resources for your country is a bad thing.
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The oil issue was more about keeping Sadaam and or Extremists from using the oil reserves as leverage against us. If we went there for oil we would have seized the fields and taken them for ourselves. Instead we have tried to use them to give the new Iraqi government a means of fiscal independance. What they do with it from here remains to be seen.
 
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therealUT said:
Correct, Saddam actually ramped up his efforts to convince Iran, and the rest of the world, that he had WMD capabilities once he believed we were pre-occupied with AQ and the Taliban. One bluff too many.
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Oh absolutely, the unfortunate thing is somewhere along the way the intelligence got effed up, and that is what led to the decline in the popularity of the war.
 
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emainvol said:
I am not arguing that, but those groups in Iraq were not focused on us before we entered the country, you really can't argue that.
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They were definitely focused on destroying the Great Satan, America. You really cannot argue that.

Whether the groups operating inside of Iraq had the capability at the time to actually do any damage in the Lower 48 (they definitely had the means and capability to pull off attacks against US soil in the Middle East) is certainly questionable.

I would rather have the US setting the terms for that fight though...
 
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emainvol said:
Saddam Hussein was secular, Al Qaeda was very radical and religious, you will never convince me they were working together.

Al Qaeda was probably just as happy to get Saddam out of the country as everyone else.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Saddam and the radical Islamic terrorist had a common enemy...and, that enemy was their number one priority.

It would not have surprised me if they had an understanding to table their differences until they had materially weakened the US position and influence over world affairs.
 
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emainvol said:
Saddam Hussein was secular, Al Qaeda was very radical and religious, you will never convince me they were working together.

Al Qaeda was probably just as happy to get Saddam out of the country as everyone else.
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The Palestinian terrorists families he was giving five thousand a pop to weren't secular. If he was so secular why would he support Palestinians? Wouldn't he remain nuetral? The religious aspect had no appeal to him but being able to inflict damage to western interests were appealing to him. That is where his motivations lie. Al Qaida was just another tool for him.
 
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emainvol said:
Saddam Hussein was secular, Al Qaeda was very radical and religious, you will never convince me they were working together.

Al Qaeda was probably just as happy to get Saddam out of the country as everyone else.
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As to your last part of the statement I believe Al Qaeda would have eventually tried to get rid of Sadaam. Sadaam has not made very wise decisions and I really don't think he saw the long term ramifications of allowing them a foothold.
 
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As for the religious angle...Saddam definitely tried his best to bring in the radicals during the Gulf War by firing scuds at Tel Aviv...
 
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therealUT said:
As for the religious angle...Saddam definitely tried his best to bring in the radicals during the Gulf War by firing scuds at Tel Aviv...
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Counting on Isreali response realizing he had no chance at a successful campaign against us. We made sure Israel stayed neutral assuring them we would negate the scuds in the coarse of a few days time.
 
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emainvol said:
That worked really well didn't it? How much is a barrel of oil now? I don't think $3 trillion is a fair trade.
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Going into Iraq doesn't have anything to do with the fact that OPEC is headed by more corrupt people than are lobbyist in Washington DC. It's also ran by people who have contempt with the fact we are the only lone superpower in the world left and they don't approve of that.
 
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