The long haul is whats important - not the last few yrs.

#51
#51
If 5 is a good number, then we're in good shape since we have 6 ('38, '40, '51, '67, '98).
 
#52
#52
(hatvol96 @ Jul 2 said:
To consider yourself among the historical elite, 5 would be a good number. I can't think of a school, other than Miami, who has that number of National Championships that I wouldn't consider a historical power.
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Since 1936, NCAA Football Championships (either AP or Coaches):

Historical Elite
Notre Dame - 8
Oklahoma - 7
USC - 7
Alabama - 7
Nebraska - 5
Ohio State - 5
Miami - 5

The Others With Two Or More:
Texas - 4
Minnesota - 4
Pittsburgh - 2
Army - 2
Michigan - 2
Tennessee - 2
Michigan St - 2
LSU - 2
Penn State - 2
FSU - 2
 
#53
#53
(GAVol @ Jul 2 said:
If 5 is a good number, then we're in good shape since we have 6 ('38, '40, '51, '67, '98).
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I'm talking consensus National Titles. I don't subscribe to the Tuscaloosan Theory of Math.
 
#54
#54
(CobbVol @ Jul 2 said:
Since 1936, NCAA Football Championships (either AP or Coaches):

Historical Elite
Notre Dame - 8
Oklahoma - 7
USC - 7
Alabama - 7
Nebraska - 5
Ohio State - 5
Miami - 5

The Others With Two Or More:
Texas - 4
Minnesota - 4
Pittsburgh - 2
Army - 2
Michigan - 2
Tennessee - 2
Michigan St - 2
LSU - 2
Penn State - 2
FSU - 2
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The list bears out my point. There's no debate that everyone, except Miami, with 5+ titles is part of the historical elite in college football. A case can be made for some teams with less than 5, but none of them has the cache of those with 5+.
 
#55
#55
(hatvol96 @ Jul 2 said:
The list bears out my point. There's no debate that everyone, except Miami, with 5+ titles is part of the historical elite in college football. A case can be made for some teams with less than 5, but none of them has the cache of those with 5+.
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It enlightened me as well. Looking at the list, Tennessee is tied for 5th among all the other schools with 2 NCAA Football Championships. That is pretty good in my simple mind. I suspect it is just what an individuals definition of "elite" actually is.
 
#56
#56
(CobbVol @ Jul 2 said:
It enlightened me as well. Looking at the list, Tennessee is tied for 5th among all the other schools with 2 NCAA Football Championships. That is pretty good in my simple mind. I suspect it is just what an individuals definition of "elite" actually is.
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Absolutely. People define success differently.
 
#57
#57
(hatvol96 @ Jul 2 said:
I'm talking consensus National Titles. I don't subscribe to the Tuscaloosan Theory of Math.
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I know . . . I was just being difficult. .
 
#59
#59
(CobbVol @ Jul 2 said:
Since 1936, NCAA Football Championships (either AP or Coaches):

Historical Elite
Notre Dame - 8
Oklahoma - 7
USC - 7
Alabama - 7
Nebraska - 5
Ohio State - 5
Miami - 5

The Others With Two Or More:
Texas - 4
Minnesota - 4
Pittsburgh - 2
Army - 2
Michigan - 2
Tennessee - 2
Michigan St - 2
LSU - 2
Penn State - 2
FSU - 2
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this proves hat's point. i have to agree with what he is saying.
 
#60
#60
YEAH!!! GET'EM HAT!!!!TN's history is absolutely something to be proud of, I know I am. However, it is just that.....history. the fact is, TN is not relevant in the discussion of college football today. the program has taken a big step back. anyone who disputes that needs to take the orange glasses off. that is not to say the ship will not be righted, but I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better. hope I am wrong.
 
#62
#62
(GAVol @ Jul 2 said:
I think "Hope I am wrong" has become the official "amen" of the negative post.
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as is let's pray for miracles from the fulmerites. :banghead:
 
#63
#63
(GAVol @ Jul 2 said:
I think "Hope I am wrong" has become the official "amen" of the negative post.
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until the vols start playing tough, fundamentally sound football, I guess I'll just have to be "negative."
:banghead:
 
#64
#64
Notice how I managed to refer to negative posts without labelling anybody a NegaVol a Fulmerite or any of those other idiotic terms? I didn't say there was anything wrong with a negative post, just that couching them with "I hope I'm wrong" has become a familiar cop out.
 
#65
#65
(GAVol @ Jul 2 said:
Notice how I managed to refer to negative posts without labelling anybody a NegaVol a Fulmerite or any of those other idiotic terms? I didn't say there was anything wrong with a negative post, just that couching them with "I hope I'm wrong" has become a familiar cop out.
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jeezz..... message boards.....familiar cop out.....great thanks man. :disappointed:
 
#67
#67
hey look at that, not a newbie! cool! well, had my fill of internet bickering, so I am off to the pool with my son. enjoy your computer GAVOL. :geek: :geek:
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thanks dog, take it easy
 
#68
#68
(tarvol23 @ Jul 2 said:
hey look at that, not a newbie! cool! well, had my fill of internet bickering, so I am off to the pool with my son. enjoy your computer GAVOL. :geek: :geek:
thanks dog, take it easy
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way to go GAVOL run off another poster that doesn't see your point of view :aggressive:
 
#69
#69
(smokedog#3 @ Jul 2 said:
way to go GAVOL run off another poster that doesn't see your point of view :aggressive:
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If that's all it takes to run somebody off, they don't need to be here. All I did was point out how often I've been seeing a particular phrase.

 
#70
#70
(GAVol @ Jul 2 said:
If that's all it takes to run somebody off, they don't need to be here. All I did was point out how often I've been seeing a particular phrase.
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one of the first posts he makes and you lable him a negavol, thats not cool man. his point was pretty legit. as for saying i hope i'm wrong thats about all you can say. the odds are stacked against us.
 
#71
#71
(smokedog#3 @ Jul 2 said:
one of the first posts he makes and you lable him a negavol, thats not cool man.
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Go read my posts and you won't see anything labelling him with a name like NegaVol.
 
#73
#73
(hatvol96 @ Jul 2 said:
I'm talking consensus National Titles. I don't subscribe to the Tuscaloosan Theory of Math.
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What the heck are you talking about Hat? You know damn well that the Tuscaloosan Theory of Math is the only observence of National Championship Relativity since 1941.........I mean 1940. :biggrin2:
 
#74
#74
(Jasongivm6 @ Jul 2 said:
What the heck are you talking about Hat? You know damn well that the Tuscaloosan Theory of Math is the only observence of National Championship Relativity since 1941.........I mean 1940. :biggrin2:
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I meant to say "1942" and "1941", respectively
 
#75
#75
(Lexvol @ Jul 2 said:
I have mentioned this before, but my discontent stems from when Stevie left Fla. UT's only natural predator was gone. Instead of taking advantage of the situation, UT really fell off of the national stage.
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This is a good point. After winning the NC in 98 and Spurrier leaving Florida in 01, the expectation was that UT would become the dominant program in the SEC.

Instead of UT moving from #2 to the #1 program in the SEC, UT lost repeated SEC championship games to LSU and Auburn, and lost the SEC east multiple times to GA, making UT the #4 program in the SEC during that time.

Now with Spurrier back at SC, and Meyer at Florida, who most believe to be a very good coach, UT could potentially slip even further.
 
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