The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Trump Indictment Is Vague About A Key Requirement – The Underlying Crime That Would Make It A Felony

Alleges that he committed a felony in part because his lawyer paid too much in taxes

When New York prosecutors charged former President Donald Trump with 34 felonies, they employed a law that can turn a misdemeanor into a felony if the misdemeanor took place while carrying out another crime. But the indictment provides little explanation of what that crime is, leaving some election lawyers scratching their heads.

“This appears to me to be a very weak aspect of the indictment and associated statement of facts, given how critical the ‘intent to commit another crime’ element is to NYC’s case,” said Robert Kelner, an election lawyer with Covington & Burling LLP. “The indictment is surprisingly vague in articulating what the other crime is, though it certainly appears they are relying on an alleged federal campaign finance law violation. If that’s the violation [former Trump lawyer Michael] Cohen admitted to in the federal case, as appears to be so, it’s an awfully thin reed to rely upon because the Cohen case itself was weak, in my view.”

Trump Indictment Is Vague About A Key Requirement – The Underlying Crime That Would Make It A Felony | The Daily Wire
 
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Orangeburst said:
Putin was obviously compelled to invade under Biden, not Trump. Same as Georgia with Obama. They see feckless leadership.
If you haven't noticed, our FP is a disaster and everyday the CCP is chipping away. All under Biden. Own it.
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I'm sorry, but we have a nation of pussies. Half of our military isn't fit to serve. If you need gay flag training in the military, you're already lost.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Is that a fact?



Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election



@volinbham .... and .... @OrangeBoro


Please take note of this link to an article in Newsweek from October 8, 2020.

Was Donald Trump really that far away from taking part in the same "banana republic" action that you guys are denouncing today? It seems like Trump wanted his Attorney General to charge Joe Biden with a crime, less than a month before the 2020 Presidential Election election. William Barr wouldn't play ball, but that doesn't make Trump's intentions any better.
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Trump's latest comments came after Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified an intelligence assessment linking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the scandal. In the assessment, it claims that Clinton approved an effort to "stir up a scandal" against Trump "by tying him to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee."

All lies initiated by the Dem Party. The Obama WH spied on a Presidential candidate. Ever since then..the nation was ripped apart. Congrats.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Trump's latest comments came after Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified an intelligence assessment linking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the scandal. In the assessment, it claims that Clinton approved an effort to "stir up a scandal" against Trump "by tying him to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee."

All lies initiated by the Dem Party. The Obama WH spied on a Presidential candidate. Ever since then..the nation was ripped apart. Congrats.
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But what does that have to do with charging Joe Biden with a crime? Hillary Clinton, maybe ... but what should Joe Biden have been charged with?
 
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volinbham said:
so Bragg says some underlying law was violated but won't say what it is?

how on earth can a defendant mount a defense if the basis of the crime is held secret?
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I've been wondering that myself. 30+ felony indictments, but the magical underlying crime isn't listed. I'm not an attorney, but shouldn't the crime be articulated?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
So y'all are all good with open borders, letting Fentanyl pour into the country, mutilating children, relying on foreign energy, the crumbling economy, watching our dollar fade from the worldwide stage, and a leader who literally has to be told where to walk?

That's scary AF.
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luthervol said:
Far more preferable than Trump. Not even remotely close.
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C-south said:
You said you would rather fentanyl pour across the border than trump be president.
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I assume you are referring to this exchange.

@kiddiedoc post was so incredibly asinine, it didn't warrant a serious response.

But I'll clarify my position. It is my firm belief that we are far better off now under Biden than we would have been at this point under a 2nd Trump term. It can neither be proven or disproven.

Stated another way, however bad you view things to be now, they would have been much worse under Trump.

So in summary, I'm for reducing unnecessary pain and suffering. That's why I'm an "anybody but Trumper".
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Is that a fact?



Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election



@volinbham .... and .... @OrangeBoro


Please take note of this link to an article in Newsweek from October 8, 2020.

Was Donald Trump really that far away from taking part in the same "banana republic" action that you guys are denouncing today? It seems like Trump wanted his Attorney General to charge Joe Biden with a crime, less than a month before the 2020 Presidential Election. William Barr wouldn't play ball, but that doesn't make Trump's intentions any better.
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Trump Refused To Jail Clinton. Democrats Have No Such Restraint



AGAIN:

According to Trump Attorney General Bill Barr’s recently published memoir, “Trump brought up the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and surprised Barr by saying that he had wanted the matter to be dropped after the 2016 election,” according to a review of Barr’s memoir in the fall 2022 Claremont Review of Books.

“‘Even if she were guilty,’ he told Barr, “for the election winner to seek prosecution of the loser would make the country look like a ‘banana republic.'”

Bottom line.......Clinton committed crimes and COULD have JUSTLY been prosecuted but was not compared to Trump who has done no crime and is unjustly being prosecuted.

Trump was more concerned about the country therefore did not prosecute Clinton...Dems have no such concern.
 
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volinbham said:
Trump couldn't charge anyone with a crime
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Neither can Joe Biden. That's not the point.

Donald Trump was publicly pressuring his Attorney General to charge his 2020 Presidential Election opponent with an unspecified crime, less than a month before their election was to take place. The timing was obviously politically-motivated to help Trump win the election.

Thank you for exposing your politically partisan hypocrisy. Your double standard could not be any more evident now. It's not politically-motivated prosecutions which bother you. You will excuse and even defend them, when they concern the prosecution, or the potential prosecution of Democrats.

You are a partisan hack masquerading as a moderate. You are a phony.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Neither can Joe Biden. That's not the point.

Donald Trump was publicly pressuring his Attorney General to charge his 2020 Presidential Election opponent with an unspecified crime, less than a month before their election was to take place. The timing was obviously politically-motivated to help Trump win the election.

Thank you for exposing your politically partisan hypocrisy. Your double standard could not be any more evident now. It's not politically-motivated prosecutions which bother you. You will excuse and even defend them, when they concern the prosecution, or the potential prosecution of Democrats.

You are a partisan hack masquerading as a moderate. You are a phony.
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LOL

There was no politically motivated prosecution of Biden regardless of Trump's wishes.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Trump Refused To Jail Clinton. Democrats Have No Such Restraint



AGAIN:

According to Trump Attorney General Bill Barr’s recently published memoir, “Trump brought up the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and surprised Barr by saying that he had wanted the matter to be dropped after the 2016 election,” according to a review of Barr’s memoir in the fall 2022 Claremont Review of Books.

“‘Even if she were guilty,’ he told Barr, “for the election winner to seek prosecution of the loser would make the country look like a ‘banana republic.'”

Bottom line.......Clinton committed crimes and COULD have JUSTLY been prosecuted but was not compared to Trump who has done no crime and is unjustly being prosecuted.

Trump was more concerned about the country therefore did not prosecute Clinton...Dems have no such concern.
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AGAIN:

Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
 
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