The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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C-south said:
You cried about a Russian hoax for years that was a direct result of the idiotic dims you worship telling lies. They fabricated the entire thing. šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚ šŸ‘†šŸ½šŸ¤”
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Did Democrats fabricate the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower?

You are still crying about election fraud ... even though Trump whines about it in every election. He's the little boy who cries wolf, and you will never learn that he is just an egotistical liar, who is manipulating you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Did Democrats fabricate the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower?

You are still crying about election fraud ... even though Trump whines about it in every election. He's the little boy who cries wolf, and you will never learn that he is just an egotistical liar, who is manipulating you.
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I just pointed out the corrupt morons you support cried about being cheated but instead of pushing for more secure elections they went the opposite way. Why? With all the mail in shenanigans itā€™s easy to see how rampant the voter fraud was. Thereā€™s a reason dims donā€™t want to dig too deep about the signature verification, people cramming tons of ballots in drop boxes, mail carriers tossing out ballots, all the wee hour ballot drops for one candidate.
 
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C-south said:
I just pointed out the corrupt morons you support cried about being cheated but instead of pushing for more secure elections they went the opposite way. Why? With all the mail in shenanigans itā€™s easy to see how rampant the voter fraud was. Thereā€™s a reason dims donā€™t want to dig too deep about the signature verification, people cramming tons of ballots in drop boxes, mail carriers tossing out ballots, all the wee hour ballot drops for one candidate.
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If mail in fraud was so easy to see ... then it would have been proven by now. It hasn't been.

There is not a scenario in which Donald Trump would ever lose an election without blaming it on fraud ... and his sycophantic supporters will buy it every single time.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If mail in fraud was so easy to see ... then it would have been proven by now. It hasn't been.

There is not a scenario in which Donald Trump would ever lose an election without blaming it on fraud ... and his sycophantic supporters will buy it every single time.
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I never mentioned trump I just mentioned the rampant fraud attributed to the mail in bs. For someone who has been duped continuously for years you should be careful throwing rocks in your extremely fragile echo chamber.
 
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C-south said:
I never mentioned trump I just mentioned the rampant fraud attributed to the mail in bs. For someone who has been duped continuously for years you should be careful throwing rocks in your extremely fragile echo chamber.
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This place is an echo chamber ... but for the Republican side. I'm seeing more and more deflection as a means of defense. It's this "No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet," tactic that Trump also does.

... and there hasn't been "rampant fraud attributed to the mail in bs." That's BS in and of itself.
 
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volfanhill said:
I love the idea that it was ā€œso scandalousā€ the trump campaign shared polling data with Russia, but Clinton ran a fake dossier out, and people are supposed to be more bothered by the trump stuff. GTFO. Ties right into the hunter computer stuff. Trump's a pos. But his supporters have a point.
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Depends on which "Trump stuff" you're talking about. There is a lot of Trump stuff. The fake elector plot, and pressuring Georgia's Secretary of State to "find" him one more vote than he needed to win Georgia. Pressuring his Vice President into refusing to count electoral votes from states they had lost during certification .... are worse than anything Hillary Clinton did.

... and Trump overplays the victim card. He is always the victim of a hoax or witch hunt. He has always been cheated somehow during every election cycle. He is the constant victim.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Depends on which "Trump stuff" you're talking about. There is a lot of Trump stuff. The fake elector plot, and pressuring Georgia's Secretary of State to "find" him one more vote than he needed to win Georgia. Pressuring his Vice President into refusing to count electoral votes from states they had lost during certification .... are worse than anything Hillary Clinton did.

... and Trump overplays the victim card. He is always the victim of a hoax or witch hunt. He has always been cheated somehow during every election cycle. He is the constant victim.
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If thatā€™s the case you would think he was a minority dim.
 
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Trump is not only a constant victim. He is a proactive victim.

Prior to both the 2016 and the 2020 elections, Trump signaled his intentions to blame his defeat on fraud (if he did lose).

www.bbc.com

US election 2016: Trump says election 'rigged at polling places'

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says those who cast doubt on his claims that next month's US elections will be rigged are "so naive".
www.bbc.com

^^^^ 2016 ^^^^


^^^^ 2020 ^^^^

If anything is certain about the 2024 election, Trump will do this again.
 
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C-south said:
If thatā€™s the case you would think he was a minority dim.
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Donald Trump likes playing the victim so much .... he will tell you that he is about to be a victim even before he has had a chance to become one. Months before any votes were ever cast in both the 2016 and 2020 Presidential General Elections, Trump was already building his excuse for losing. Yet, his supporters still believe him.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Stop using that word tribal towards people you donā€™t even know. Iā€™m not someone who just comes on here and pokes both sides. Iā€™m actually a registered libertarian who has watched Garland make extremely politicized choices towards whom to prosecute. Maybe he was balanced when he sat on the Circuit. Now heā€™s just a bitter political hack. Again you literally have no idea about what ā€tribeā€ I make my homeā€¦.in so just stop.
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BowlBrother85 said:
No. You're focusing too much on the word "collusion," and Mueller did not call anything a lie.

Robert Mueller's report did not address "collusion," because that is not a legal term. The Mueller probe concerned whether or not the evidence was sufficient enough to charge any member of the Trump campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. Mueller determined that it was not.

However, Mueller later added that, "The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed."

www.politico.eu

Mueller refutes Trumpā€™s ā€˜no collusion, no obstructionā€™ line

ā€˜We focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.ā€™
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu

You are exaggerating the extent to which Mueller's report exonerated Trump.
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No collusion
 
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Majors said:
No collusion
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Collusion was never under evaluation. That's not even a legal term. The Mueller probe investigated whether or not sufficient evidence existed to criminally charge members of the 2016 Trump Campaign with entering into a criminal conspiracy with agents of the Russian government.

The probe concluded that there was not sufficient evidence of that. It didn't take a stand on the question of obstruction, because there wasn't an underlying crime.

The word "collusion" was badly overused in reference to what Mueller was investigating.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Collusion was never under evaluation. That's not even a legal term. The Mueller probe investigated whether or not sufficient evidence existed to criminally charge members of the 2016 Trump Campaign with entering into a criminal conspiracy with agents of the Russian government.

The probe concluded that there was not sufficient evidence of that. It didn't take a stand on the question of obstruction, because there wasn't an underlying crime.

The word "collusion" was badly overused in reference to what Mueller was investigating.
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Agree based on 3+ years of the term ā€œcollusionā€ being manipulated by the media to its audience to sway an election. Bob said, that is a lie. The damage was done and for that reason, left leaning media outlets that continued to report it daily lost its credibility on honesty. Which means they are culpable for the division and divide.
 
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Majors said:
Agree based on 3+ years of the term ā€œcollusionā€ being manipulated by the media to its audience to sway an election. Bob said, that is a lie. The damage was done and for that reason, left leaning media outlets that continued to report it daily lost its credibility on honesty. Which means they are culpable for the division and divide.
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Robert Mueller did not say that it was a lie. Read the post with the link to where Mueller explained, that "collusion" is not a legal term. It's not necessarily a crime to collude.

Mueller also went the extra mile of saying that his report did not exculpate Trump of acts he allegedly committed.
 
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