The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Franklin Pierce]

Graham: Potential Trump NYC Indictment ‘Will Blow Up Our Country — This Is a Bunch of B.S.’

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said Tuesday on FNC’s “Fox & Friends” that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s potential indicting of former President Donald Trump is a “bunch of B.S.” that will blow up the country.

Graham: Potential Trump NYC Indictment 'Will Blow Up Our Country — This Is a Bunch of B.S.'

 

[McDad]

I really think its a function of a shrinking ideologic base for the GOP. The Republican party USED to be about 3 things:

1) Fiscal restraint;

2) Deregulation and lower taxes on builders of wealth; and

3) A strong national defense.
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You're missing several others.

Family Values. Remember the rhetoric of R politicians and how they were mocked (and still are) when their personal family values are at odds with their talking points.

Rule of Law. Starting with adherence to the constitution.

Less reliance on government.

Of course, all those were what the Democrat party was about 60 years ago.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Didn't she loose a car and has to pay Trump like 300k? And your thrilled because of tweets and nicknames....so sad and deluded that you think this has any impact on anyone but small minded Dems

It's sad that anyone knows her name at all ... but let's make it clear how she became a household name .... Trump's attorney wrote her a $130,000 check less than a month before the presidential election. To a stripper/porn star? For God's sake that isn't normal.

 

[lawgator1]

Sure it is. "My preference is to be called 'They'." My dictionary says "they" refers to plural. You're wanting that definition to change. My point is not exaggerated at all. That's exactly my point. You want to re-define my dictionary

Yes, I can see why the GOP would abandon all principle on fiscal and national security matters over this threat to Democracy.

FWIW, I agree with you personally about there being too much coddling of folks with these gender identification issues. I just don't see it as worth anyone's time or effort to complain.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Who was one of a very select group: attained the office of President of the United States

I guess that makes paying off a porn star/stripper okay? Trump is gutter trash.

 

[AirVol]

I guess that makes paying off a porn star/stripper okay? Trump is gutter trash.

If we only knew who has used the govt hush money fund.

 

[Sea Ray]

Yes, I can see why the GOP would abandon all principle on fiscal and national security matters over this threat to Democracy.

FWIW, I agree with you personally about there being too much coddling of folks with these gender identification issues. I just don't see it as worth anyone's time or effort to complain.

Granted no one in Washington sans Rand Paul, cares about fiscal responsibility but Republicans do care about national security. That's why they want the southern border closed. Have you missed that?

One issue of fiscal responsibility shown by Republicans but not Democrats is forgiveness of student loans

 

[hog88]

You're missing several others.

Family Values. Remember the rhetoric of R politicians and how they were mocked (and still are) when their personal family values are at odds with their talking points.

Rule of Law. Starting with adherence to the constitution.

Less reliance on government.

Of course, all those were what the Democrat party was about 60 years ago.

Pence is still mocked and by all appearances he does abide by his "family values" rhetoric.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Rand Paul tweets NY DA ‘should be put in jail’

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday suggested that the Manhattan district attorney “should be put in jail” amid anticipation that former President Trump could be hit with an indictment today as prosecutors probe payments made to adult-film star Stormy Daniels during Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

“A Trump indictment would be a disgusting abuse of power. The DA should be put in jail,” Paul tweeted.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3910156-rand-paul-tweets-ny-da-should-be-put-in-jail/

 

[OrangeTsar]

You're missing several others.

Family Values. Remember the rhetoric of R politicians and how they were mocked (and still are) when their personal family values are at odds with their talking points.

Rule of Law. Starting with adherence to the constitution.

Less reliance on government.

Of course, all those were what the Democrat party was about 60 years ago.

The same party responsible for slavery and Jim Crow? Please DO continue…..

 

[BowlBrother85]

If we only knew who has used the govt hush money fund.

We know someone who had their attorney write a $130,000 check to a stripper/porn star named Stormy Daniels and insisted that she sign a non-disclosure agreement less than a month before the 2016 Presidential Election. That's called hush money, people. Michael Cohen didn't do that on his own.

This has become the story that it has, because the heart of it is basically true.

 

[OrangeTsar]

You're missing several others.

Family Values. Remember the rhetoric of R politicians and how they were mocked (and still are) when their personal family values are at odds with their talking points.

Rule of Law. Starting with adherence to the constitution.

Less reliance on government.

Of course, all those were what the Democrat party was about 60 years ago.

Please discuss the family values of Ted and John Kennedy next please

 

[McDad]

Pence is still mocked and by all appearances he does abide by his "family values" rhetoric.

Excellent point. Family values are mocked whether the R conforms or contradicts their rhetoric.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Also ... Google Karen McDougal. Stormy wasn't alone.

 

[Orangeburst]

Well I will say this sets a precedent so expect it coming back like a boomerang

 

[McDad]

Well I will say this sets a precedent so expect it coming back like a boomerang

You referencing arresting former politicians? Prosecuting hush money payments? Something else?

 

[Orangeburst]

You referencing arresting former politicians? Prosecuting hush money payments? Something else?

Number 1

 

[LouderVol]

His name is Tiny now. Doesn't really matter if he gets indicted, I just love the fact that Stormy gave him a new nickname and is owning him and his supporters on a daily basis with her tweets. And we know it's driving Tiny absolutely insane getting embarrassed by Stormy.

The fact that you and luther liked this show this was never about decorum. It was never about tweets, or the "sanctity" of the office. Its all politics. all long as its your side getting the hits in, you don't care about the platform or the optics, its only when the other side acts like a fool that its wrong.

 

[McDad]

Number 1

I am dubious it comes back around like a boomerang. I think the practice may continue but only be applied to the most offensive, or the most destabilizing, to the political elites' power. The average, everyday corrupt politician would be treated with the hands off approach they are now.

 

[Orangeburst]

I am dubious it comes back around like a boomerang. I think the practice may continue but only be applied to the most offensive, or the most destabilizing, to the political elites' power. The average, everyday corrupt politician would be treated with the hands off approach they are now.

I am sure there are many with indisputable and egregious criminal offenses that the ticky tac is not even necessary.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Number 1

There is a shameful lack of accountability from Republicans being directed toward Trump for his role in this situation. This wasn't a media creation. Donald Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, wrote a stripper/porn star Daniels/Clifford a $130,000 check, payable under the condition that she sign a non-disclosure agreement less than one month before the 2016 Presidential Election. None other than Michael Cohen has testified to this before the grand jury.

... and yet, this is all just a "witch hunt", with Donald Trump being an innocent victim of overzealous, prosecutorial misconduct? Sure thing. Trump had no part in this situation at all.

 

[hog88]

We know someone who had their attorney write a $130,000 check to a stripper/porn star named Stormy Daniels and insisted that she sign a non-disclosure agreement less than a month before the 2016 Presidential Election. That's called hush money, people. Michael Cohen didn't do that on his own.

This has become the story that it has, because the heart of it is basically true.

I don't think anyone is disputing that he paid her off. Unless those funds came from the campaign the payoff wasn't a crime.

 

[hog88]

Excellent point. Family values are mocked whether the R conforms or contradicts their rhetoric.

Yes they are.

 

[luthervol]

And yet the candidate you voted for in 2016 struggled with the message. Ironic.

And you just confirmed you are fine with a guilty until proven innocent approach. You also suggested that approach when you stated “Let the courts decide” in regard to Trump earlier in this thread. Where do communist fit on your continuum?

She really didn't. She only struggled with choosing words that would not be misleading used as right-wing propaganda.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I don't think anyone is disputing that he paid her off. Unless those funds came from the campaign the payoff wasn't a crime.

You mean besides Trump? Who claims that Cohen did it from the kindness of his heart? LOL.