The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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whodeycin85 said:
I believe it for things done in purview of his job...other wise Obama and Bush could be tried for the murder of Americans overseas...your smart enough to understand the difference..Trumps argument is that he was acting under his purview to challenge the election results....if I'm understanding it correctly..now given this far it hasn't been placed in criminal charges only civil...we will have to see
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By this logic Trump could have executed Biden and claimed he did it "as President."

While the POTUS does indeed have enormous power, defying election results and working to thwart the peaceful transition of the office is not among them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
By this logic Trump could have executed Biden and claimed he did it "as President."

While the POTUS does indeed have enormous power, defying election results and working to thwart the peaceful transition of the office is not among them.
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That is indeed the point...he is not charged with any kinds insurrection charges..that's why I believe SCOTUS will eventually rule on this. And when done might open a can of worms on past presidents....several have blood on thier hands including Trump
 
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newokie03 said:
abcnews.go.com

Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources

Ex-Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has spoken with Jack Smith's team several times this year, and Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, sources say.
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So what? Half of his advisors told him one thing and half told him another - and its entirely like him to chose something neither group said and go that way. Eveeryone acts like there was some clear authority here that could say - "absolutely not, I am the sole decider of elections and I say there was no cheating that effected the outcome" But there isnt. Any more than when a President decides to go to war, kill a program etc.

There is no way you can prove Trump himself didnt believe that he won and there was cheating going on - and if so, there is no mens rea here. In fact, he was trying to safeguard what he thought were the true election results. Dems and some gop may disagree but so what? They didnt like most of the things he decided while in office either.
 
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Gandalf said:
So what? Half of his advisors told him one thing and half told him another - and its entirely like him to chose something neither group said and go that way. Eveeryone acts like there was some clear authority here that could say - "absolutely not, I am the sole decider of elections and I say there was no cheating that effected the outcome" But there isnt. Any more than when a President decides to go to war, kill a program etc.

There is no way you can prove Trump himself didnt believe that he won and there was cheating going on - and if so, there is no mens rea here. In fact, he was trying to safeguard what he thought were the true election results. Dems and some gop may disagree but so what? They didnt like most of the things he decided while in office either.
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Are you saying that if Trump had people undertake a criminal act on his behalf because he thought it would prove he won the election, it ceased to become a criminal act? For instance, one of the charges deals with tampering with election machines. If Trump said, "go tamper with those election machines," it would be okay if he legitimately thought he won?
 
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The mental gymnastics some folks go through just so they can keep believing in the orange carnival barker are comical.

Turn off the Fox propaganda machine and start using your damn brains.
 
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newokie03 said:
abcnews.go.com

Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources

Ex-Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has spoken with Jack Smith's team several times this year, and Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, sources say.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
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Sources told ABC News that Smith's investigators were keenly interested in questioning Meadows about election-related conversations he had with Trump during his final months in office, and whether Meadows actually believed some of the claims he included in a book he published after Trump left office -- a book that promised to "correct the record" on Trump.


ABC News has identified several assertions in the book that appear to be contradicted by what Meadows allegedly told investigators behind closed doors.

According to Meadows' book, the election was "stolen" and "rigged" with help from "allies in the liberal media," who ignored "actual evidence of fraud, right there in plain sight for anyone to access and analyze."
 
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volgr said:
But he supported the Orange Menace, so he deserves it, lawfare be damned...
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LOL

Owen Shroyer, host of the Infowars "war room", broke into a restricted area and incited the riot "and plead guilty."

www.pbs.org

Infowars host Owen Shroyer gets 2 months in prison in Capitol insurrection case

Prosecutors said Shroyer "helped create" Jan. 6, 2021, by spewing violent rhetoric and spreading baseless claims of election fraud to hundreds of thousands of viewers.
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and now you know the rest of the story.

You're all victims.
 
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Septic said:
LOL

Owen Shroyer, host of the Infowars "war room", broke into a restricted area and incited the riot "and plead guilty."

www.pbs.org

Infowars host Owen Shroyer gets 2 months in prison in Capitol insurrection case

Prosecutors said Shroyer "helped create" Jan. 6, 2021, by spewing violent rhetoric and spreading baseless claims of election fraud to hundreds of thousands of viewers.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

and now you know the rest of the story.

You're all victims.
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Of course you are ok with this. Hopefully karma visits you one day.
 
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turbovol said:
Mark Meadows ripping a new one for the gangster in Jan. 6 testimony.

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According to Meadows' book, the election was "stolen" and "rigged" with help from "allies in the liberal media," who ignored "actual evidence of fraud, right there in plain sight for anyone to access and analyze."

Was Meadows LYING then, or is he LYING now?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
According to Meadows' book, the election was "stolen" and "rigged" with help from "allies in the liberal media," who ignored "actual evidence of fraud, right there in plain sight for anyone to access and analyze."

Was Meadows LYING then, or is he LYING now?
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Was he lying when he was trying to sell something, or if he was caught lying his ass goes to jail?

Is that a serious question?
 
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volgr said:
Of course you are ok with this. Hopefully karma visits you one day.
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I'm simply pointing out that this idiot wasn't reading the bible on the House steps, he literally plead guilty.

But since you asked, I'm disappointed that he only got two months. J6 traitors should get two years, minimum.
 
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