The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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turbovol said:
Willis acted foolishly, stupidly, but nothing she did, or will ever do, can obviate the fact that Trump acted treasonously, tried to subvert a U.S. presidential election--and in Georgia tried to bully the state's top election official into committing felony vote fraud. Period. End of story.
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Trump is presumed innocent. How our court system works...
 
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Anybody got the details on which Trump properties I can get at auction?

I'm leaning towards one of the commercial residential places, but honestly a golf course seems like fun.

Then again, poor Melania seems lonely.

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MontyPython said:
Anybody got the details on which Trump properties I can get at auction?

I'm leaning towards one of the commercial residential places, but honestly a golf course seems like fun.

Then again, poor Melania seems lonely.

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I think I’ll go bid the full value of $18 million for Mar a lago. That’s what the judge said it was worth right?
 
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Gandalf said:
I think I’ll go bid the full value of $18 million for Mar a lago. That’s what the judge said it was worth right?
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The Palm Beach tax appraiser said that, not the judge. The judge only noted the valuation that Trump used when using it on bank loan applications was 2,300% more than the tax appraised value. He never stated that's what it would sell for.
 
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Septic said:
The Palm Beach tax appraiser said that, not the judge. The judge only noted the valuation that Trump used when using it on bank loan applications was 2,300% more than the tax appraised value. He never stated that's what it would sell for.
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The judge said that because Trump's valuation expert that he used at trial could not meet the minimal standards to get his valuation established in the legal record.

The REALTOR and MAL member that Trump's side offered as an expert could not provide any objective proof to his valuation and that his method was in his head and could not be created. For expert valuation testimony to be admissible anywhere, you have to show some type of objective valuation attempt...

As a result of this, the only valuation that existed in the record was the appraisal
 
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Septic said:
The Palm Beach tax appraiser said that, not the judge. The judge only noted the valuation that Trump used when using it on bank loan applications was 2,300% more than the tax appraised value. He never stated that's what it would sell for.
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But pretty much the entire case is that Trump said his assets are worth X-BIGLY and the judge said based on who he decided to listen to, thought the assets were worth x-tiny. That is the whole case. And why it is going to cost NY billions of dollars in tax revenues of projects that are going to bail.

If they are really stupid they can seize assets and then start dumping them on the market. CRE in NYC is barely hanging on by a thread. You want to see overvalued assets? Take a look at what a number of banks have their CRE portfolios market to market at. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and it will all come crushing down.

This case is a joke of a prosecution and everyone knows it. It is simply destroy orange man at any cost, by any means.

If we start playing that game, it can lead to places that can be severe.
 
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Gandalf said:
But pretty much the entire case is that Trump said his assets are worth X-BIGLY and the judge said based on who he decided to listen to, thought the assets were worth x-tiny. That is the whole case. And why it is going to cost NY billions of dollars in tax revenues of projects that are going to bail.

If they are really stupid they can seize assets and then start dumping them on the market. CRE in NYC is barely hanging on by a thread. You want to see overvalued assets? Take a look at what a number of banks have their CRE portfolios market to market at. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and it will all come crushing down.

This case is a joke of a prosecution and everyone knows it. It is simply destroy orange man at any cost, by any means.

If we start playing that game, it can lead to places that can be severe.
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Couldn't happen to a better state. The citizens of NY will pay for their voting.
 
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Gandalf said:
But pretty much the entire case is that Trump said his assets are worth X-BIGLY and the judge said based on who he decided to listen to, thought the assets were worth x-tiny. That is the whole case. And why it is going to cost NY billions of dollars in tax revenues of projects that are going to bail.

If they are really stupid they can seize assets and then start dumping them on the market. CRE in NYC is barely hanging on by a thread. You want to see overvalued assets? Take a look at what a number of banks have their CRE portfolios market to market at. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and it will all come crushing down.

This case is a joke of a prosecution and everyone knows it. It is simply destroy orange man at any cost, by any means.

If we start playing that game, it can lead to places that can be severe.
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Reason 437 why trump should have never been nominated and elected in 2016.

At some point the conclusion will have to be, "You know what, orange man was actually that bad".
 
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Gandalf said:
But pretty much the entire case is that Trump said his assets are worth X-BIGLY and the judge said based on who he decided to listen to, thought the assets were worth x-tiny. That is the whole case. And why it is going to cost NY billions of dollars in tax revenues of projects that are going to bail.

If they are really stupid they can seize assets and then start dumping them on the market. CRE in NYC is barely hanging on by a thread. You want to see overvalued assets? Take a look at what a number of banks have their CRE portfolios market to market at. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and it will all come crushing down.

This case is a joke of a prosecution and everyone knows it. It is simply destroy orange man at any cost, by any means.

If we start playing that game, it can lead to places that can be severe.
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It's well beyond that. Trump and his team literally created fake income statements to give to banks/appraisers that lied about operating profit, rental income, and square footage. This went well beyond saying I value it big-ly and the state values it less big-ly...
 
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Letitia James appears to eye Trump's Westchester golf club and 212-acre estate as properties she could seize as clock ticks to the deadline for him to pay $454 million​


New York AG Letitia James may be gearing up to seize Donald Trump's Westchester golf club and Seven Springs estate as the deadline looms for the ex-president to secure the $454 million bond a judge imposed after his fraud trial.

The attorney general formally registered judgements in Westchester County where Trump has the two properties just north of Manhattan on March 6.

According to the county clerk's online database, the judgements were registered against Trump, the Trump Organization and his two adult sons Don Jr. and Eric. The action was first reported by Bloomberg News.

The move signals the attorney general may be eyeing the property if Trump is unable to post bond. The filing did not give a reason for the registration or specifically identify any Trump assets.

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New York Attorney General signals she could be preparing to seize Trump properties in Westchester County including Trump National Golf Club with judgement filing in the county north of Manhattan

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Trump's 212-acre Seven Springs estate in Bedford, NY is also located in Westchester County

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NY AG appears to eye Trump's Westchester golf club and 212-acre estate

New York Attorney General Letitia James appears to be gearing up to potentially seize Donald Trump 's Westchester golf club and Seven Springs estate as the deadline looms.
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Gandalf said:
But pretty much the entire case is that Trump said his assets are worth X-BIGLY and the judge said based on who he decided to listen to, thought the assets were worth x-tiny. That is the whole case. And why it is going to cost NY billions of dollars in tax revenues of projects that are going to bail.

If they are really stupid they can seize assets and then start dumping them on the market. CRE in NYC is barely hanging on by a thread. You want to see overvalued assets? Take a look at what a number of banks have their CRE portfolios market to market at. HAHAHAHAHAHA. and it will all come crushing down.

This case is a joke of a prosecution and everyone knows it. It is simply destroy orange man at any cost, by any means.

If we start playing that game, it can lead to places that can be severe.
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Then we agree, it wasn't the judge who valued MAL at $18m, it was the tax appraiser.

Should profits or assets attained through fraud be untouchable in your opinion?
 
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It would be amazing to have NY seize his properties, then upon appeal either get it drastically reduced or thrown out altogether then Trump is owed Millions by NYC.
 
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