The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Majors said:
Great economy inherited? The economy was booming under Trump and cruising to another 4 years. And look what happened a manufactured virus entered the world magically in an election year that was connected to the left. End result was deaths and economy shut down which all was collateral damage to keep Trump from winning. Sorry if you lost a loved one, blame those on the left that needed it to happen to get Trump out of office.
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Yes, the worldwide shutdown happened to engineer a single American election.

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Vol8188 said:
So you don’t believe any left wing cities, counties, or states intentionally locked down longer than they believed necessary in order to tank the economy?

It seemed pretty obvious at that time
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Obvious then and now. A guy in basement was elected….the left wants to believe it was coincidence and not protection.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Oh it was absolutely taken advantage of.

The virus wasn't engineered to dethrone Trump.
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Maybe I misread but I don’t believe he said that. He only said the virus was engineered, but did not state an intent. The virus being engineered seems obvious at this point (and from day one) right?

Edit: on second read I think I was incorrect
 
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n_huffhines said:
Artificially low interest rates are just another version of free money, so it's all compounding. I remodeled my kitchen at the inflated price of $40k. Put it on a 30-yr refinance at 2.6%. I'll win that deal by the end.
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I bought my house 18 months ago. 3% interest. My wife asked me if we were going to try to pay it off early. I said hell no. I am never paying this ****er off early at that rate. Come out way ahead
 
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Vol8188 said:
So you agree they used lockdowns to destroy the economy? If not, I can’t see any other reason to keep bringing up his issues with California. And he’s right about that. They refuse to manage their forests and create this issue for themselves.

do you intend on answering the question of what issue outside of covid did trumps economy have? You can’t keep claiming he destroyed the economy without explaining why. I mean, you can, you’ll just be looked at as a clown
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No, it's you who agreed that it was only one factor among many.

Now are you willing to also agree that Trump did an absolutely horrendous job of building positive working relationships with states (CA) that did not support him in the election. Or are you going to continue with the absurd position that even if states did intentionally attempt to undermine Trump that he bears no responsibility and it isn't an overall reflection of his ineffectiveness at running the country. I think it speaks directly to why Trump was a poor president and had a negative impact on the economy.
 
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Majors said:
Great economy inherited? The economy was booming under Trump and cruising to another 4 years. And look what happened a manufactured virus entered the world magically in an election year that was connected to the left. End result was deaths and economy shut down which all was collateral damage to keep Trump from winning. Sorry if you lost a loved one, blame those on the left that needed it to happen to get Trump out of office.
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Absolutely nothing supports that post. I've posted a link several times about the state of the economy and the direction it was headed when Trump left office. I don't have time to go back and find it now.
 
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luthervol said:
No, it's you who agreed that it was only one factor among many.

Now are you willing to also agree that Trump did an absolutely horrendous job of building positive working relationships with states (CA) that did not support him in the election. Or are you going to continue with the absurd position that even if states did intentionally attempt to undermine Trump that he bears no responsibility and it isn't an overall reflection of his ineffectiveness at running the country. I think it speaks directly to why Trump was a poor president and had a negative impact on the economy.
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Covid was the main factor, yes. I’ve never claimed it was the only factor because nothing has a single driving factor. You’re just arguing semantics because you’ve got nothing else here.

Just to clarify it seems we both agree the economic issues are due to left wing lockdown policies that were politically motivated but you believe that was acceptable because “orange man bad”?
 
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luthervol said:
Absolutely nothing supports that post. I've posted a link several times about the state of the economy and the direction it was headed when Trump left office. I don't have time to go back and find it now.
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You can post links all you need to. Pretty obvious why the economy was that way, had nothing to do with Trump. But please post a link when common sense isn’t firing.
 
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volfanhill said:
I bought my house 18 months ago. 3% interest. My wife asked me if we were going to try to pay it off early. I said hell no. I am never paying this ****er off early at that rate. Come out way ahead
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Yeah, when we bought the house, I set up my payments to round up to the nearest $100 to pay down interest. Was gonna knock 4 years off the loan. I think it was an extra $87/month or something. When I refinanced and decided against paying extra for the very same reason. My house had increased in value by like 80% in 3 years and interest rates dropped, and I realized 26-30 years is so far away and the $ has more value to me now.
 
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volfanhill said:
I bought my house 18 months ago. 3% interest. My wife asked me if we were going to try to pay it off early. I said hell no. I am never paying this ****er off early at that rate. Come out way ahead
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I was perusing Zillow last night, saw a house on Tims Ford Lake in Winchester that we looked at and considered buying in 2019. It was listed then for about $450K, today it's listed for 1.1 mil. Absolute insanity.
 
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luthervol said:
No, it's you who agreed that it was only one factor among many.

Now are you willing to also agree that Trump did an absolutely horrendous job of building positive working relationships with states (CA) that did not support him in the election. Or are you going to continue with .

Now are you willing to also agree that Trump did an absolutely horrendous job of building positive working relationships with states (CA) that did not support him in the election. Or are you going to continue with the absurd position that even if states did intentionally attempt to undermine Trump that he bears no responsibility and it isn't an overall reflection of his ineffectiveness at running the country. I think it speaks directly to why Trump was a poor president and had a negative impact on the economy.
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ineffectiveness? All those items you believed and chased were lies. Ineffectiveness is you trusting they were true.
 
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luthervol said:
No, it's you who agreed that it was only one factor among many.

Now are you willing to also agree that Trump did an absolutely horrendous job of building positive working relationships with states (CA) that did not support him in the election. Or are you going to continue with the absurd position that even if states did intentionally attempt to undermine Trump that he bears no responsibility and it isn't an overall reflection of his ineffectiveness at running the country. I think it speaks directly to why Trump was a poor president and had a negative impact on the economy.
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My goodness man. The politicians/bureaucrats that shut down their states and kept them shut down hurt their residents and the country, doing it because it would hurt Trump or because he didn't build working relationships with them is petty at best and criminal (well it's just criminal). It reflects only on their partisanship since they put politics ahead of the good of their citizens.
 
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hog88 said:
My goodness man. The politicians/bureaucrats that shut down their states and kept them shut down hurt their residents and the country, doing it because it would hurt Trump or because he didn't build working relationships with them is petty at best and criminal (well it's just criminal). It reflects only on their partisanship since they put politics ahead of the good of their citizens.
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had to push mail-in ballots and keep Biden protected. But that’s just coincidence to the left.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Should we change the thread title yet?
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If at first you don't succeed... is the Democrat model. You can be sure they will keep trying. This was just a "trial balloon" ahem for the next few rounds.

What they really want is for him to seal the nomination and THEN get some kind of case where they can indict him and there is enough there for it to stick. Then that can be the cover story as to why ol shoeless Joe gets even MORE votes than last time in a historic re-election victory.

I mean, its not like they have any other ideas or anything.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Artificially low interest rates are just another version of free money, so it's all compounding. I remodeled my kitchen at the inflated price of $40k. Put it on a 30-yr refinance at 2.6%. I'll win that deal by the end.
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win Bigly.
 
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