The Official #10 Tennessee vs. #1 Alabama Game Thread, 7:00 PM ET, ESPN2

[WaywardVol]

Then there are some who will congratulate the team on a great win and will call em out when they look like poo.
It's called being a fanatic.

And it’s literally that way at most every school.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Are we better without Phillips?

No

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I thought the biggest thing last night, we didn't keep settling for jumpers. ZZ kept going down hill and getting in the paint. I mean hell Miller fouled out, when was the last time someone fouled out against this team? The AZ game when it went to OT?

 

[turbovol]

The bama coach was quite complimentary of the Vols after the game, whereas the tide fans were like
most fans after a loss and blamed it on the officials, in this case for letting UT get away with rough play.

 

[Tennman]

I live in Alabama ( retired military) and work with many many alabama fans. They were mostly complaining of the number of turnovers they had and pretty much complimentary of how well Tennessee played. It actually was quite nice to hear. They do complain a lot about officiating, but honestly bama usually is the recipient of more favorable calls than not, at least in my orange colored eyes.
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[LibertyVol]

Any credit for Barnes in there or was he just along for the ride?

Barnes is an outstanding coach. I could not be happier with him as Tennessee’s coach. These people who want him gone could not be more wrong. Tennessee is going to miss him when he is gone.

 

[LibertyVol]

I live in Alabama ( retired military) and work with many many alabama fans. They were mostly complaining of the number of turnovers they had and pretty much complimentary of how well Tennessee played. It actually was quite nice to hear. They do complain a lot about officiating, but honestly bama usually is the recipient of more favorable calls than not, at least in my orange colored eyes.
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Alabama has a great team. Tennessee played well last night and they had to to win. We all complain about the officials. It is human nature. I think a team generally gets a more favorable whistle at home. So I get why they are complaining.

 

[WaywardVol]

No

Regardless, Phillips doesn’t deserve the minutes or starts he’s garnered under Barnes.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Regardless, Phillips doesn’t deserve the minutes or starts he’s garnered under Barnes.

Phillips is a 5* with options and an NIL. It comes with the territory

 

[WaywardVol]

Phillips is a 5* with options and an NIL. It comes with the territory

Screw that crap. All the more reason to bench him for not living up to his dollar amount l.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Screw that crap. All the more reason to bench him for not living up to his dollar amount l.

That's not how that works.

 

[WaywardVol]

That's not how that works.

Bull. A $5 million coach ain’t getting dictated his starters based on one NIL deal

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Bull. A $5 million coach ain’t getting dictated his starters based on one NIL deal

This isn't football. You don't offer a kid a massive NIL deal in basketball to sit him on the bench.

 

[Dragon18]

This isn't football. You don't offer a kid a massive NIL deal in basketball to sit him on the bench.

It would seem to me that one of the big benefits to NIL is that the money is out in the open and separate from the program. It's too early to really tell but I would think coaches are more insulated from the pressure to play a player because of money.

 

[The Dog]

This isn't football. You don't offer a kid a massive NIL deal in basketball to sit him on the bench.

What ? Are you saying Phillips is only starting because of his NIL deal ? Man, you know Barnes don't play that sh!t, you gotta earn it

 

[mr.checkerboards]

What ? Are you saying Phillips is only starting because of his NIL deal ? Man, you know Barnes don't play that sh!t, you gotta earn it

For a number of different reasons, but yes that plays a part.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

It would seem to me that one of the big benefits to NIL is that the money is out in the open and separate from the program. It's too early to really tell but I would think coaches are more insulated from the pressure to play a player because of money.

Football you can get away with the development excuse, but not B ball. Fr come in and play every year. People who make those NIL deals happen aren't going to be as willing to give if they get burnt.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Regardless, Phillips doesn’t deserve the minutes or starts he’s garnered under Barnes.

Whoa wtf?

Phillips is top 5 on the team in ever per game stat, I mean sure it'd be nice if he was scoring 12+ a game and grabbing 8 rebounds every night but he is still a freshmen regardless of what his star rating or HS rank was, it's a different game playing in the SEC.

He's also leading the team in FT attempts and makes. Second on the team in 2 point makes and attempts. Has as many total blocks as Uros and Awaka combined... he has earned ever bit of his 25 mpg. Just hasn't really gotten comfortable with how TN is played in the SEC. I hope he's back for another year, the experience this year will be invaluable for what he needs to work on in the off-season and him returning would fill a big gap losing Santi/JJJ will leave.

 

[volinokc]

No question. I really like watching him play. You can tell he has received and listened to good coaching over the years. He got a ton of good looks because he worked for them. What’s even more beautiful is he realized his shot wasn’t falling tonight so he stopped shooting.

Yeah, he made his moves quickly and decisively last night. I feel like earlier in the season he would spend all day backing down his defender only to put up a bad shot, but the last few games he has been attacking and finding space a lot better.

 

[volinokc]

Whoa wtf?

Phillips is top 5 on the team in ever per game stat, I mean sure it'd be nice if he was scoring 12+ a game and grabbing 8 rebounds every night but he is still a freshmen regardless of what his star rating or HS rank was, it's a different game playing in the SEC.

He's also leading the team in FT attempts and makes. Second on the team in 2 point makes and attempts. Has as many total blocks as Uros and Awaka combined... he has earned ever bit of his 25 mpg. Just hasn't really gotten comfortable with how TN is played in the SEC. I hope he's back for another year, the experience this year will be invaluable for what he needs to work on in the off-season and him returning would fill a big gap losing Santi/JJJ will leave.

You see some mind-boggling takes in here sometimes.

 

[vol94]

Those statements don’t jive.

I agree. I told my brother last Sunday that KY would be in the tourney despite the comments made on Saturday after the horrible loss to GA.
Hopefully TN will take it to then Sat.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

You see some mind-boggling takes in here sometimes.

For sure...some of our "fans" seem to be confused by how Barnes operates. He wouldn't be playing if he wasn't earning the minutes.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Then there are some who will congratulate the team on a great win and will call em out when they look like poo.
It's called being a fanatic.

It is amazing how those people defend themselves and like in kind when their efforts are bad on a plus minus evaluation for the same program. Value add or NOT is what it is. At least players and coaches do provide efforts that lead to victories, posters not so much.

 

[WaywardVol]

This isn't football. You don't offer a kid a massive NIL deal in basketball to sit him on the bench.

I’m sorry, where is this rule?

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

They must have been banned. That's the only explanation for why they're not here celebrating

We're all vol fans, nobody celebrates a loss.