The Official #17 Tennessee vs. #25 Missouri Game Thread, 3:30 PM ET, ESPN

[Tenacjim]

That’s not how it works though. Only two teams have 3 wins over top 10 teams. Tennessee is one of them. Don’t overthink it and take the emotion of it being “your team” out of it and TN is a clear 3.

And if TN is a “clear 3”, you can rest assured we will actually not be seeded higher than a 4 (that’s where I’m predicting we get seeded but a 5 wouldn’t shock me). I can take the “emotion” out of it. But not the “metrics” of where we actually have been seeded the last few years despite the metrics saying we should have been seeded higher. Human bias is absolutely part of the process. Look no further than Bama being ahead of us in the final CFP rankings.

 

[Freak]

We’re not getting bounced the first weekend?

Maybe, maybe not. Regardless. Comparing our top 20 basketball program to our football program‘s struggles is absurd.

 

[kregman]

Old miss players acting like they are in they are in the North Pole.

 

[D3Athlete]

Didn't watch him as a Vol, but I'd have Allan Houston ahead of Santi (and he's my favorite player on the team) still.


Santi will finish top 3 in made 3 pointers, top 5 in 3 point attempts and % though.

That’s why I said “I have seen”

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I'm still baffled that didnt call a foul on that shove to Vescovi.

 

[kregman]

Sorry wrong forum

 

[D3Athlete]

Williams? Which Williams are you talking about as a better shooter than Vescovi?

I was thinking the same. Williams who

 

[C-south]

Williams? Which Williams are you talking about as a better shooter than Vescovi?

Grant Williams was a better shooter and by far a better all around player.

 

[D3Athlete]

Williams and McRae were better. Maybe there’s more I’m not familiar with

McRae was not a better shooter than Santi

 

[CornbreadVol]

Grant Williams was a better shooter and by far a better all around player.

Lmao are you high???

 

[CornbreadVol]

Lmao are you high???

Williams a better shooter than Vescovi??

 

[D3Athlete]

Grant Williams was a better shooter and by far a better all around player.

Talkin about 3 point shootin genius. Good god.

 

[CornbreadVol]

We seriously have the dumbest fans

 

[C-south]

Williams a better shooter than Vescovi??

And he wasn’t one dimensional.

 

[turbovol]

I actually thought we played pretty well today.
Missouri is going to be a tough out if they shoot this well in the tourney. James was a massive letdown and we need him to get by the first weekend.

Missouri is a good team--size, play with a lot of physicality and intensity on the defensive end, and their guards play well.

Our centers were an absolute no-show today. ZERO points from the 3 of them, collectively, 4 rebounds. B-A-D.

 

[C-south]

We seriously have the dumbest fans

With a lack of self awareness b

 

[CornbreadVol]

And he wasn’t one dimensional.

We’re talking about shooting genius…

 

[Vol49er]

Grant Williams was a better shooter and by far a better all around player.

Obviously he was a better player. You’re off one of you think Grant was a better shooter than Vescovi is. Maybe you’re thinking of Celtics Grant but in college he was not a prolific 3 point shooter at all. His junior year he could hit an open look but that was never his game.

 

[CornbreadVol]

With a lack of self awareness b

Lol what’re you talking about??

 

[MoCo_Vol]

That would’ve been my second choice. I think including Scov and JJJ is a bit unfair cause they weren’t who they developed to be. I find it hard to criticize the coach too much when the go to player is John Fulkerson. Plus the win in Lexington that year is one of my favorites

But he had Grant for 3 seasons and should have been recruiting better than he was.

2016 class = 49th
2017 class = 54th
2018 class = 120th
2019 class = 28th (and had to scramble to add Santi to get it that high)

Just frustrating because he had 2 successful seasons before that 2019-20 one and the recruiting wasn't where it needed to be so we saw a big dip from 31 wins to 17, and again if Santi hadn't been eligible we likely don't win that many.

 

[C-south]

Lol what’re you talking about??

Bingo

 

[C-south]

Obviously he was a better player. You’re off one of you think Grant was a better shooter than Vescovi is. Maybe you’re thinking of Celtics Grant but in college he was not a prolific 3 point shooter at all. His junior year he could hit an open look but that was never his game.

He didn’t have to just shoot 3s. He was a much greater offensive player and defensive player even.

 

[UTFanHades]

Maybe, maybe not. Regardless. Comparing our top 20 basketball program to our football program struggles is absurd.

Yes-it’s hyperbole. We tolerate so much that other fanbases don’t and you’re seeing that when were #1 in kenpom, can’t even make a top four performance in the league, and get dropped on Friday. But we’ll make tournament appearances and lackluster exits every year. If we like that, we’ve got the right program.

 

[Vol49er]

But he had Grant for 3 seasons and should have been recruiting better than he was.

2016 class = 49th
2017 class = 54th
2018 class = 120th
2019 class = 28th (and had to scramble to add Santi to get it that high)

Just frustrating because he had 2 successful seasons before that 2019-20 one and the recruiting wasn't where it needed to be so we saw a big dip from 31 wins to 17, and again if Santi hadn't been eligible we likely don't win that many.

Ok, I was just talking in season. If you zoom out like that I agree with you

 

[LibertyVol]

I actually thought we played pretty well today.
Missouri is going to be a tough out if they shoot this well in the tourney. James was a massive letdown and we need him to get by the first weekend.

I hope I am wrong, but JJ’s light is not coming on. He is what he is.