The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

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Grand Vol said:
Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject a bit more before you try to keep proving a point. Because if you really want to start on this "white people are bad" trip, let's go ahead and check the ledger:

Radical Islam: 3,051 with at least double that injured.

Homegrown white ultra right wing fanatics: 216, plus around three times that injured.

I added in 9/11 on the jihadist side and OKC on the homegrown side.

You still want to try to play numbers with me? Stop before I really make you look like a fool.
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GV, he has a habit of doing this all on his own. You're just throwing gasoline on an already raging fire.
 
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Godfatha said:
Again, considering 70.6% of the nation's population identifies as Christian and .9% identify as Muslim, that means an
Individual Muslim residing in the US is many many more times likely to commit terrorism than an individual Christian in the US. Statistics are fun.
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He teaches math, but hasn't risen above long division yet GF. You'll need to simplify your example for him.
 
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NCFisher said:
And yet, both the relatively ungoverned early colonies and the West gravitated to government. For all its attractiveness economically, anarchy doesn't generate the same fondness when viewed or experienced as a guarantor of rights, contracts, or national defense. That is not to say government absolutely guarantees those things either, but it appears the nature of people to continually perceive it a better option. Government seems to be the natural state of people.
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That's how they talk the masses into accepting government, but the people selling that wanted power. The kind of anarchy that existed in the old west would be nothing like it would be today because the world is a different place (technology being the biggest difference maker).

Technology will make government more obsolete over time. Government resists. The best example is the post office with the inception of email (not to mention fedex and ups). There really is no need and it's still sold to us like it's necessary (and we're still buying).

What happens when home security is hella cheap and can collect dna on intruders? Basically, no more home invasions is what will happen. We'll still have a bloated police force busting prostitutes, and it will be sold to us as security.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's how they talk the masses into accepting government, but the people selling that wanted power. The kind of anarchy that existed in the old west would be nothing like it would be today because the world is a different place (technology being the biggest difference maker).

Technology will make government more obsolete over time. Government resists. The best example is the post office with the inception of email (not to mention fedex and ups). There really is no need and it's still sold to us like it's necessary (and we're still buying).

What happens when home security is hella cheap and can collect dna on intruders? Basically, no more home invasions is what will happen. We'll still have a bloated police force busting prostitutes, and it will be sold to us as security.
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Societies are fonder of liberty in their infancy, and imagination, than adulthood. People can't perpetually be talked into erecting governments unless they're already sold on it. Our brushes or experiments with anarchy have coincided with brutally suppressing minority populations. AC might afford more individual choice but offer less liberty in actuality.

People would buy that sort of technology regardless, so the presence of government doesn't inhibit its development. People rape without a condom despite DNA testing, murder despite death penalty. OTOH, the existence of government does't equate to outlawing of vice as countries where prostitution is legal attest.

If people cannot be convinced merely of liberalizing markets, reducing the federal influence and restoring powers to the states (as I argue), anarchy has nothing to stick to.
 
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Fascinating

kids are constantly negotiating what are, at heart, questions of governance. Will their world be a free-for-all, in which everyone can create and destroy everything? What happens if someone breaks the rules? Should they...employ plug-ins to prevent damage, in effect using software to enforce property rights? There are now hundreds of such governance plug-ins.

Seth Frey, a postdoctoral fellow in computational social science at Dartmouth College, has studied the behavior of thousands of youths on Minecraft servers, and he argues that their interactions are, essentially, teaching civic literacy. "You've got these kids, and they're creating these worlds, and they think they're just playing a game, but they have to solve some of the hardest problems facing humanity," Frey says. "They have to solve the tragedy of the commons." What's more, they're often anonymous teenagers who, studies suggest, are almost 90 percent male (online play attracts far fewer girls and women than single-*player mode). That makes them "what I like to think of as possibly the worst human beings around," Frey adds, only half-jokingly. "So this shouldn't work. And the fact that this works is astonishing."

Frey is an admirer of Elinor Ostrom, the Nobel Prize-*winning political economist who analyzed the often-*unexpected ways that everyday people govern themselves and manage resources. He sees a reflection of her work in Minecraft: Running a server becomes a crash course in how to compromise, balance one another's demands and resolve conflict.
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How Kids Build, Learn, and Resolve Their Fights in a Video Game World - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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