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Except if the field goal kicker, disadvantaged after a penalty, had actually hit it two feet to the left. Then, Butch would be ok, right?

This is Tennessee. He just lost thousands of fans, that will NEVER come back.
 
Except if the field goal kicker, disadvantaged after a penalty, had actually hit it two feet to the left. Then, Butch would be ok, right?

No. The inability to close out games is to the point of absurdity. A lucky kick against a team we shouldn't need luck to beat does not erase 3 years.
 
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This is Tennessee. He just lost thousands of fans, that will NEVER come back.

Then they are stupid if they blame it on the coach. Under his overall guidance, he put the team in a position to win the game. Some dumbass sets them back a few yards and makes the field goal that much harder, it gets missed, then everyone lines up to throw the coach under the bus. Refusing to hold players accountable is crazy. As a former player, I WANTED accountability.
 
No. The inability to close out games is to the point of absurdity. A lucky kick against a team we shouldn't need luck to beat does not erase 3 years.

I do agree that it should not have come down on the shoulders of the kicker. Should have been closed out before.
 
Then they are stupid if they blame it on the coach. Under his overall guidance, he put the team in a position to win the game. Some dumbass sets them back a few yards and makes the field goal that much harder, it gets missed, then everyone lines up to throw the coach under the bus. Refusing to hold players accountable is crazy. As a former player, I WANTED accountability.

What dumbass? I thought we tried to sub a player in?
 
Then they are stupid if they blame it on the coach. Under his overall guidance, he put the team in a position to win the game. Some dumbass sets them back a few yards and makes the field goal that much harder, it gets missed, then everyone lines up to throw the coach under the bus. Refusing to hold players accountable is crazy. As a former player, I WANTED accountability.

He had a timeout and coaches are responsible for subs. Clearly it was confusion all around. No reason for the penalty.
 
Then they are stupid if they blame it on the coach. Under his overall guidance, he put the team in a position to win the game. Some dumbass sets them back a few yards and makes the field goal that much harder, it gets missed, then everyone lines up to throw the coach under the bus. Refusing to hold players accountable is crazy. As a former player, I WANTED accountability.

Players don't get paid millions to make decisions.

And I'm pretty sure the coaches are the dumbasses that were responsible for setting the kick back 5 yards.
 
Players don't get paid millions to make decisions.

And I'm pretty sure the coaches are the dumbasses that were responsible for setting the kick back 5 yards.

You've used some pretty strong language against me, but I will admit that I must have missed something when it came to the substitution. I really thought it was a player screwing up. I still would have loved to see the kick a little bit left of where it went :) :peace2:
 
Ask Majors and Fulmer
Butch just lost 1/3 of the fanbase that will never forgive him. Even if he recovers, they'll be waiting to run him out.

Nm. I get what you are saying. They turned on him. I thought you meant they turned on TN for good
 
Then they are stupid if they blame it on the coach. Under his overall guidance, he put the team in a position to win the game. Some dumbass sets them back a few yards and makes the field goal that much harder, it gets missed, then everyone lines up to throw the coach under the bus. Refusing to hold players accountable is crazy. As a former player, I WANTED accountability.

To be fair Hurd and Dobbs both made great runs that should have been stopped short of a first on the drive before that. Its not like the coaching staff was making great calls on that drive, we just had great effort by 2 guys. Butch made some great calls the first half that got us up for sure, then it appeared like his butt puckered a little late. He was the dumbass that set us back BTW, all he had to do was use his last timeout. JMO
 
To be fair Hurd and Dobbs both made great runs that should have been stopped short of a first on the drive before that. Its not like the coaching staff was making great calls on that drive, we just had great effort by 2 guys. Butch made some great calls the first half that got us up for sure, then it appeared like his butt puckered a little late. He was the dumbass that set us back BTW, all he had to do was use his last timeout. JMO

Jerry, I mentioned in a post after that one that I missed what the call was for. I don't know if I had just walked back in the room and wondered what the heck happened or if I was just looking down at my computer, but I simply didn't know it when I posted the one you quoted. That's ok, you can hang me if you like but I did admit that mistaken view on the game. I really thought some a-hole committed a stupid penalty, something Butch teaches players NOT to do. Then he goes and does it when it really counts. I'll leave it at that. :peace2:
 
Jerry, I mentioned in a post after that one that I missed what the call was for. I don't know if I had just walked back in the room and wondered what the heck happened or if I was just looking down at my computer, but I simply didn't know it when I posted the one you quoted. That's ok, you can hang me if you like but I did admit that mistaken view on the game. I really thought some a-hole committed a stupid penalty, something Butch teaches players NOT to do. Then he goes and does it when it really counts. I'll leave it at that. :peace2:

I was late to the party and noticed your post after, I was just to lazy to edit it. I was trying to be a **** BTW. We are friends...till the NBA season starts. :)
 
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Didn't see this earlier, but no worries, we're still buddies. I just hate when I'm in a forum where I actually care whether or not people like my posts and I say something stupid like I did. I'm gonna brave the waters of the FF next time, where who the hell cares what anyone thinks is the general mentality. Then, when I make a mistake, some guy with his four remaining teeth will come back and say "You're stupid, we lost because those refs SCREWED us." I'll just smile and move on..
 
Didn't see this earlier, but no worries, we're still buddies. I just hate when I'm in a forum where I actually care whether or not people like my posts and I say something stupid like I did. I'm gonna brave the waters of the FF next time, where who the hell cares what anyone thinks is the general mentality. Then, when I make a mistake, some guy with his four remaining teeth will come back and say "You're stupid, we lost because those refs SCREWED us." I'll just smile and move on..

I remember those days...not fun.
 
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Didn't see this earlier, but no worries, we're still buddies. I just hate when I'm in a forum where I actually care whether or not people like my posts and I say something stupid like I did. I'm gonna brave the waters of the FF next time, where who the hell cares what anyone thinks is the general mentality. Then, when I make a mistake, some guy with his four remaining teeth will come back and say "You're stupid, we lost because those refs SCREWED us." I'll just smile and move on..

I don't think anybody here is going to think less of you, or try to crack your skull and drink your brains out, lol.
 
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Didn't see this earlier, but no worries, we're still buddies. I just hate when I'm in a forum where I actually care whether or not people like my posts and I say something stupid like I did. I'm gonna brave the waters of the FF next time, where who the hell cares what anyone thinks is the general mentality. Then, when I make a mistake, some guy with his four remaining teeth will come back and say "You're stupid, we lost because those refs SCREWED us." I'll just smile and move on..

We all say dumb stuff, but we all get along and don't mean anything bad just conversation. We are all pretty level headed...except when me and Professor X have at it, which hasn't happened in awhile.



Hey Huff...**** you. :)
 
You guys are funny. Kind words, as well. Does anyone else have any trepidation about Arkansas? I mean, we should KILL them. We just should. Somehow, I've just been thinking this one was one of THOSE games..
 
You guys are funny. Kind words, as well. Does anyone else have any trepidation about Arkansas? I mean, we should KILL them. We just should. Somehow, I've just been thinking this one was one of THOSE games..

I no longer consider myself rational on the matter. All the fun is gone right now and I'm just waiting for more letdown
 
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You guys are funny. Kind words, as well. Does anyone else have any trepidation about Arkansas? I mean, we should KILL them. We just should. Somehow, I've just been thinking this one was one of THOSE games..

The guys here are 9999999999x better than anything you'll find anywhere else. Unless Huff is whining about how such and such is the best 4 in the league because he rebounds 16% better than anyone else at his position it's a great place.

And yes. Arky game is tough to call. I like UT at home by 5.
 
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You guys are funny. Kind words, as well. Does anyone else have any trepidation about Arkansas? I mean, we should KILL them. We just should. Somehow, I've just been thinking this one was one of THOSE games..

A loss to Arky would not surprise me. They just gave A&M a hell of a game. Our guys have to be emotionally drained.

Not a good set up IMO.
 

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