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DrunkJohnny said:
I guess. Chris Hope, Matt Hasselbeck, and Eugene Amano could all use a significant pay cut as well. I'm just not sure blaming the Titans problems on 1 player is logical. At all.

They all suck. Specifically Hasselbeck, who the Titans are paying 21,000,000 for some reason.
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It's not all on one player. At least those guys are trying, though they just might not be good. CJ is just cruising. I think he pulled a Haynesworth after getting paid.
 
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TrueOrange said:
...and even the texans admitted (Cushing, wade phillips, etc) postgame that he had a target on him everytime he takes the field (they made sure wherever he went, cushing followed...sometimes 2 guys). When your team can't pass consistently enough to warrant a threat and every team treats your RB the same, noone in this league can or will succeed in that situation


Get that you're upset he wanted more money - to anyone outside the league, holdouts appear solely to be greed - but putting any and all blame just on him (or on "being a p---y," "not playing not that he has his money," etc) is just erroneous....this team is having problems all over, both sides of the ball
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Exactly. When you're biggest threat in the passing game is Matt Hasselbeck to Damien Williams, you aren't going to be able to run the ball in the NFL. Period.
 
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TrueOrange said:
...and even the texans admitted (Cushing, wade phillips, etc) postgame that he had a target on him everytime he takes the field (they made sure wherever he went, cushing followed...sometimes 2 guys). When your team can't pass consistently enough to warrant a threat and every team treats your RB the same, noone in this league can or will succeed in that situation


Get that you're upset he wanted more money - to anyone outside the league, holdouts appear solely to be greed - but putting any and all blame just on him (or on "being a p---y," "not playing not that he has his money," etc) is just erroneous....this team is having problems all over, both sides of the ball
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CJ has always had a target on him. Look, just watch some old CJ, and watch him this year. The proof is in the tape. You think other teams didn't load up when Collins and Vince were QB? And I don't care that he wanted more money. He had to get more money and deserved, based off his stats, more money. I have a problem with his effort now that he is paid. He hasn't finished a run all year. It's human nature to get fat and happy once you are set, in sports/business/whatever, and CJ is proving it. The very same reason is why I don't give my reps guaranteed salaries. The guaranteed reps always fell short of the straight commission reps in sales and effort. Every time.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
Exactly. When you're biggest threat in the passing game is Matt Hasselbeck to Damien Williams, you aren't going to be able to run the ball in the NFL. Period.
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Pretty much. Ringer has also said some things about issues on the oline. (though I don't want to open the whole "ringer should start" box today)
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pl3 said:
CJ has always had a target on him. Look, just watch some old CJ, and watch him this year. The proof is in the tape. You think other teams didn't load up when Collins and Vince were QB? And I don't care that he wanted more money. He had to get more money and deserved, based off his stats, more money. I have a problem with his effort now that he is paid. He hasn't finished a run all year. It's human nature to get fat and happy once you are set, in sports/business/whatever, and CJ is proving it. The very same reason is why I don't give my reps guaranteed salaries. The guaranteed reps always fell short of the straight commission reps in sales and effort. Every time.
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Agree to disagree. I'll try to watch more closely next game but I haven't seen a lack of effort, just a running back being met in the backfield by about 48 defenders 95% of the time he touches the ball.
 
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In comments that didn't receive much attention, Javon Ringer pretty much pointed the finger squarely at the OL in this article:

Titans don't see Javon Ringer as answer to slumping Chris Johnson | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

“Of course I want the ball,” said Ringer, a third-year pro. “I have my qualities that I feel make me just as good as C.J., but clearly I am just not as fast. But no disrespect to the fans, but what people in the stands don’t understand is no matter who you have in the backfield, if things aren’t working right up front, nothing is going to work right. … I’ll get hit around and smacked around like he has been.”
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That's a pretty big indictment.

I'm not ready to give up on CJ, but I will say I think it's fair to question his performance this season. To further that point, it's fair to question everyone on offense. It's pretty clear to me that the loss of Kenny Britt was a killer, too. We lost without him last year and are losing without him this year.

And I was dead wrong on Barrett Ruud. That guy has been terrible this year and I hope Colin McCarthy starts as soon as he's healthy.

The team looks a lot like it did last year after the bye to me, and that's really, really bad.
 
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The Colts game for the Titans is another Dolphins Jets game. The Titans can end the losing streak by beating up a team that right now has been a punching bag for excellent offenses.
The Titans need to win by 28 or more points because right now I think the Colts could be as abysmal as the 2009 Rams.
 
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firestorm said:
The Colts game for the Titans is another Dolphins Jets game. The Titans can end the losing streak by beating up a team that right now has been a punching bag for excellent offenses.
The Titans need to win by 28 or more points because right now I think the Colts could be as abysmal as the 2009 Rams.
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I don't think margin of victory really matters as long as the Titans actually win.
 
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VKAman said:
I don't think margin of victory really matters as long as the Titans actually win.
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Well I guess I want to see a blowout of a team that has embarassed the Titans.
Titans are going to have to get pressure on Painter. While the Colts have lost all their games Painter is a successful passer, and is not another Grossman.
 
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He came on the zone and without saying it , pretty much passed the blame to whoever but himself. He's clearly not the same guy, but don't tell him that. This happens a lot, probably too many times to be coincidence. Guy signs big contract and is never heard from again or his numbers are pedestrian. I'm not sure that CJ's best days aren't already behind him.
 
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Ringer's tossed blame at the problems with the line up front and picking up their assignments as well


There's a multitude ofproblems going on with this team, not just issues with one guy

(and that'd also be ignoring the defenses putting bullseyes on him that other team's defensive players and DCs have made mention of...)
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firestorm said:
Is the game being shown on Cable in your area?

CJ needs to have a amazing game. The Colts defense stopping the run I think could be as abysmal as the 2008 Lions.
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I really need a Tennessee football win soon or I'm gonna go crazy
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