The perpetual "Oh no, the Govt gonna Shutdown!" Thread, bought to you by the Wingnut LG

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whodeycin85 said:
Your proposal is more taxes. And then finally reduce spending.....shouldn't we reduce spending first and then maybe we wouldn't need to raise taxes..
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Increased revenue is pretty worthless without meaningful control on spending. Saying you have more water to pour into a bucket with holes only means more wasted water.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's like saying that because you could not agree on a price at the dealership to get new tires you are going to intentionally run out of gas a few days later and strand yourself by the side of the road to symbolize how much it costs in total to run a car.

You will eventually have to gas up your clunker to get it moving. And you will still have to buy new tires.

You've accomplished nothing.
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Only a liberal would do that, anyone else that couldn't afford new tires would just stop driving the car until they could afford the tires.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's like saying that because you could not agree on a price at the dealership to get new tires you are going to intentionally run out of gas a few days later and strand yourself by the side of the road to symbolize how much it costs in total to run a car.

You will eventually have to gas up your clunker to get it moving. And you will still have to buy new tires.

You've accomplished nothing.
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My my my how sanctimonious you are when you're not in power.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Seems to me there are three means to reduce the debt:

1) Growth resulting in increasing tax revenue (which we do not just spend, but use to pay down debt).

2) Increase taxes.

3) Reduce spending.


IMO, we will have to do all three. The mix is the question.
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yes, but when does that get implemented? That seems to be the issue you are raising. The Rs are pushing #3 and you keep yelling about now not being the right mechanism for that.

the impending shut downs are part of the negotiations that have been on going.

as others have pointed out this is political theatre. Someone will buckle right at the 11th hour, and nothing will be addressed because of your mindset, and we will have this same discussion in November when the Senate proposal ends.
 
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LouderVol said:
yes, but when does that get implemented? That seems to be the issue you are raising. The Rs are pushing #3 and you keep yelling about now not being the right mechanism for that.

the impending shut downs are part of the negotiations that have been on going.

as others have pointed out this is political theatre. Someone will buckle right at the 11th hour, and nothing will be addressed because of your mindset, and we will have this same discussion in November when the Senate proposal ends.
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Oh please.

The things they want to cut are stragglers social spending plans. Would not put a dent in the debt.
 
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Hicks only pretend to care about government spending because they hear GOP politicians pretending to care about government spending.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm just not seeing the point. All that happens is that a slice of the government work force is told not to show up for work Monday, and to stay home until resolved. Then they all ultimately get paid anyway, for the time they were out.

If the goal is to call attention in the big picture to government inefficiency, this seems like all it does is, you know, make the government even more inefficient.

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If this is all about the Freedom Caucus ousting McCarthy, then just do that. No need for the histrionics.
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I"m still looking for the Government Shutdown thread you started in 2019 when the Democrat Wing Nuts shut it down?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Can you get me direct from ATL to SEA when I am headed to Japan? 😂 every shortcut helps.

Just kidding of course. Thanks for the great job your guys do.
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Only I did that was when I lived in Orlando. I get a direct flight from my house in Atlanta to my temporary gig out here, only 2 hours, aint too shabby. But we aren't a hub for anyone so if its more than 2 hours away I have to swap planes.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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Weird though how the Republicans over the past 30 years tend to always instigate the shutdowns...and the GOP still scratches their head on why so many voted for Biden. You don't win voters outside a small fringe minority over stunts like this.

The problem is we have a bunch of lunatics and morons for representatives (Marjorie Green and I'm Not Gay Gaetz for example) who can't do their f##king jobs because they have to win and cannot compromise on anything.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The GOP mainstream in the House recognizes that the way to address this, as in the past, is a resolution to fund the government.
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This sentence right here makes the point you are trying to refute. You want the "mainstream" GOP to maintain the status quo and cooperate with the Dems to kick this can down the road. Both parties got us into this.
 
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