The playoff committee and force majeur.

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Tman44 said:
Matthew 8:12
"but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Do you know why the sons were cast out (of the playoff)? Because they got whooped by South Carolina!
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Hulavol said:
I have seen a ton of teeth knashing around here about the committee not following its own rules.

I believe they actually did. They ranked the teams per their own rules to the letter - except they had to make an unusual exception due to never imagined circumstances. I believe this to be their force majeur clause- essentially meaning that a contract (or rules) should be abandoned in the case of unforeseen circumstances - 9/11 attacks, pandemic, etc disrupting the normal course of business.

There was an unforeseen and simply unimaginable event this year. I saw it in person with my own eyes.
The number five ranked team gave up 63 points to South Carolina. Two weeks ago. 63. South Carolina.
No way in hell any team that does such a thing can be considered for a playoff spot.
Force Majeur. Throw the normal rules out of the window. There wasn’t a rule already in place for this because the absurdity of it couldn’t be imagined.
No one on earth was alive in the 1903 when such a thing last occurred.

Just my .02
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youcancallmeAl said:
The differential between us and SCe was 25 points in an away game for us.
The differential between Mich and OSU was 22 points in a home game for the buckeyes.
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And a LSU team that lost by 27 at home and 2 weeks later the media said they were a changed team and playoff bound only to falter. The media knee jerks week to week like some folks on a message board.Just saying all teams have ups and downs. You go by on field results. Not who is injured or what coaches are coaching. Some teams get excused for 1 bad performance more than others. That is a fact, they are giving the committee too much latitude in the future if they are going to take injuries into account. Heck you could have a undefeated team lose their top players in last few regular season games and maybe not be as impressive looking and committee could just say we don’t think they are worthy now even though the won the last 2 games they struggled. I remember Tony Robinson going down and everybody said there goes the season. The next game 5th year senior Darryl Dickey struggled we tied Georgia Tech 6-6 on a last second Fuad Reviez field goal from about 55 yards out. After that game everyone was saying we were done. We proceeded to win out. Injuries are a part of the game but should not penalize a team for losing a player at a bad time. GBO
 
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Russdaddy2027 said:
No one arguing for a spot in the playoffs but the ranking of ALA ahead of UT is not defendable
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I don't like it anymore than you or anyone else here. You have to understand the goal of the committee. The job is to rank the teams as they are currently. It's a crying shame, but Hooker is gone. ESPN has him listed with the second highest QBR rating in the nation, 89.5. Joe Milton went 11 for 21 with 147 yards one touchdown and a 72.9 QBR against Vandy. I understand how weather and a breakout run game affected the pass game; however, the committee sees the numbers. We cannot be given the benefit of the doubt without Hendo. It does suck, but that is the reality of it. I hope Milton uses this as motivation. Anyone remember what happened the last time we lost a Heisman hopeful to the draft?
 
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Tman44 said:
I don't like it anymore than you or anyone else here. You have to understand the goal of the committee. The job is to rank the teams as they are currently. It's a crying shame, but Hooker is gone. ESPN has him listed with the second highest QBR rating in the nation, 89.5. Joe Milton went 11 for 21 with 147 yards one touchdown and a 72.9 QBR against Vandy. I understand how weather and a breakout run game affected the pass game; however, the committee sees the numbers. We cannot be given the benefit of the doubt without Hendo. It does suck, but that is the reality of it. I hope Milton uses this as motivation. Anyone remember what happened the last time we lost a Heisman hopeful to the draft?
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Again, that's not part of the committee's stated criteria. If they're going to take a team's injury report into consideration, then say so instead of them pulling criteria out they're anus as they go to support who they want to install in the CFP.
 
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No one will ever change my mind that business reasons drive their rankings and the rationale is created after the fact to make it sound fair.
 
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Hulavol said:
I have seen a ton of teeth knashing around here about the committee not following its own rules.

I believe they actually did. They ranked the teams per their own rules to the letter - except they had to make an unusual exception due to never imagined circumstances. I believe this to be their force majeur clause- essentially meaning that a contract (or rules) should be abandoned in the case of unforeseen circumstances - 9/11 attacks, pandemic, etc disrupting the normal course of business.

There was an unforeseen and simply unimaginable event this year. I saw it in person with my own eyes.
The number five ranked team gave up 63 points to South Carolina. Two weeks ago. 63. South Carolina.
No way in hell any team that does such a thing can be considered for a playoff spot.
Force Majeur. Throw the normal rules out of the window. There wasn’t a rule already in place for this because the absurdity of it couldn’t be imagined.
No one on earth was alive in the 1903 when such a thing last occurred.

Just my .02
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It’s asinine and has nothing to do with force majeur. It’s the committee being swayed by the brand versus their own criteria.
 
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Tman44 said:
I don't like it anymore than you or anyone else here. You have to understand the goal of the committee. The job is to rank the teams as they are currently. It's a crying shame, but Hooker is gone. ESPN has him listed with the second highest QBR rating in the nation, 89.5. Joe Milton went 11 for 21 with 147 yards one touchdown and a 72.9 QBR against Vandy. I understand how weather and a breakout run game affected the pass game; however, the committee sees the numbers. We cannot be given the benefit of the doubt without Hendo. It does suck, but that is the reality of it. I hope Milton uses this as motivation. Anyone remember what happened the last time we lost a Heisman hopeful to the draft?
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If that is the way they think, then they think wrong. According to their own criteria for judgement, there is no recency bias mentioned. The entire body of work must be taken into consideration.
 
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TennEddie said:
I believe the “ Milton factor “
figured in. We are not the same
team without Hooker.
That’s our “ Force Majeur “.
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We did not have Tony Robinson in our 1986 Sugar Bowl but beat a higher ranked Miami team with a walk on QB. The QB situation is a wuss argument. Football is a team sport.
 
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Tman44 said:
I don't like it anymore than you or anyone else here. You have to understand the goal of the committee. The job is to rank the teams as they are currently. It's a crying shame, but Hooker is gone. ESPN has him listed with the second highest QBR rating in the nation, 89.5. Joe Milton went 11 for 21 with 147 yards one touchdown and a 72.9 QBR against Vandy. I understand how weather and a breakout run game affected the pass game; however, the committee sees the numbers. We cannot be given the benefit of the doubt without Hendo. It does suck, but that is the reality of it. I hope Milton uses this as motivation. Anyone remember what happened the last time we lost a Heisman hopeful to the draft?
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Where are all of these Bama apologists coming from?
 
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We've moved on from making the CFP to complaining about UA being ranked one spot higher.

Keep up, OP.
 
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Just admit it, regardless of results on the field the committee thinks Bama is one of the best 4 teams every year and will until Saban dies. On field results be damned.
Bama would have to not be bowl eligible for the committee to not pick them.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
There's no defense for a team we beat being ranked ahead of us when we have the same record vs a tougher schedule. No "truth" can be told to justify it. However, colors can be shown and there's apparently no small amount of crimson floating around in here.
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GA we could deal with.
There was no excuse for SC.
None.
Once we dropped below Bama and LSU there was no way we were getting it back unless they lossed again.
LSU lost...Bama didn't
What were they supposed to reward us with after bending over to SC for 63 points?
You don't reward that kind of failure late in the season.
And it doesnt really matter.....Ohio State is the only one who has a chance.
 
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Vanhalo said:
GA we could deal with.
There was no excuse for SC.
None.
Once we dropped below Bama and LSU there was no way we were getting it back unless they lossed again.
LSU lost...Bama didn't
What were they supposed to reward us with after bending over to SC for 63 points?
You don't reward that kind of failure late in the season.
And it doesnt really matter.....Ohio State is the only one who has a chance.
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We broke a 100+ year old record for points scored against Alabama when we beat them. But them giving up that many points doesn't matter to the Tiders on the board apparently. Only Tennessee giving up 63. The mentality that time of year matters when you lose is mind-numbingly stupid as well. People who think that way suffer from some kind of brain blisters.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
We broke a 100+ year old record for points scored against Alabama when we beat them.
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And then we went and did something very TN and totally overshadowed it with a bad record of our own against SC.

Take the SC game away and I will agree with you.

 
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Vanhalo said:
And then we went and did something very TN and totally overshadowed it with a bad record of our own against SC.

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So both of us gave up a record setting amount of points on the road vs a team we were heavy favorites over. Wonder what would be some other tie breaking type criteria when you have the same record. Maybe....beating that team head to head.

This did smoke out the closet Alabama fans at least.
 
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We coulda let Carolina score 100 on us. Irrelevant. Same damn record as Bama and we beat them head to head. It ain’t hard to use damn common sense. Anyone that justifies Bama being ranked higher than Tennessee were dropped on the head as a baby.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
So both of us gave up a record setting amount of points on the road vs a team we were heavy favorites over.
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#5 TN was favored by 22 points over an unranked SC and we lost by 25...55 points

#3 Bama was favored by 9 over #6 TN and lost by 3...12 points
 
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UTK said:
We coulda let Carolina score 100 on us. Irrelevant. Same damn record as Bama and we beat them head to head. It ain’t hard to use damn common sense. Anyone that justifies Bama being ranked higher than Tennessee were dropped on the head as a baby.
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Winning margins are not irrelevant in College Football.
All we had to do was beat SC like we were supposed to.
We didn't.
Neither TN nor Alabama are getting in the CFP.
So this whole debate is pointless.
Additionally I don't think we get in even with our 1 loss to GA.
Assuming all 4 teams win their conference games.
 
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