The real reason we were flat

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dobre_shunka said:
When I saw the graphic Oregon State hadn't won an NCAA tournament game since 1985, I knew Tennessee was going to lose. UT always seems to be on the wrong end of these "hasn't happened in decades" / feel good stories. Just add it to the loss to Loyola with the 98 year old nun.
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We are known as cape neyland for a reason. You need to break some long drought or launch a random guys career just put us on the schedule.
 
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VolBricks said:
The problem with yesterdays game was they had a 7'1 center and (2) players that could hit a 3. And we had 5* freshmen who could not figure out how to play together all season. I knew in the first 3 minutes of that game we were not winning. They came out hitting shots and we were unfocused and played that way all game. The team played hard and gave a great effort especially in the second half but just could not hit the shots that mattered.
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They also started 3 seniors and a junior. Experience matters.
 
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BruinVol said:
and why did that bad team show up??

a coach that allowed and provided them the excuse for it loud and clearly at that
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This was always a flawed team. There is no true PG (SV is an undersized SG playing in an unathletic PG body) , not enough shooting, nothing developed past roster spot #6 Friday, and struggles guarding the 3.

Some teams couldn't exploit those weaknesses, some games we got contributions from spots 8-10 on the roster, and some days we had enough shooting. Yesterday wasnt one of those days.

This isnt to absolve Barnes of blame since ultimately roster construction is up to him and this is the 2nd year in a row that the pieces didnt fit.
 
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BigBadVol said:
Barnes has had more first round outs in the NCAA Tournament than any coach in history. OK, I get that means he put a lot of teams in the tourney but it also means that they were not ready to play.
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Barnes obviously can't handle big games. A few years ago Tennessee had the most talented team they had seen in years and flopped in the sweet sixteen. I have a friend who is a Longhorn and after Barnes was hired I called to inquire about him. My friend said, "you can have him". Barnes has been given plenty of chances. Time for Barnes to find a new color
 
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tnbelle98 said:
Barnes obviously can't handle big games. A few years ago Tennessee had the most talented team they had seen in years and flopped in the sweet sixteen. I have a friend who is a Longhorn and after Barnes was hired I called to inquire about him. My friend said, "you can have him". Barnes has been given plenty of chances. Time for Barnes to find a new color
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Maybe Indiana can give him a call and then he could then say coaching the Hoosiers was his dream job:D
 
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It's easy to blame a coach, but wildly erratic shooting/anemic offense is not something a coach can easily fix. Plenty of chances, good looks and just not hitting the shots with any consistency is the story of this season. Scoring drought after drought. Defense keeps us out of blowout losses,
 
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tnbelle98 said:
Barnes obviously can't handle big games. A few years ago Tennessee had the most talented team they had seen in years and flopped in the sweet sixteen. I have a friend who is a Longhorn and after Barnes was hired I called to inquire about him. My friend said, "you can have him". Barnes has been given plenty of chances. Time for Barnes to find a new color
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When did UT flop in the Sweet 16 ? Are u talking about Purdue ? Because that was an OT loss to the #3 seed because of a bullsh!t foul call that led to Carson Edwards shooting 3 free throws and hitting 2 of 'em with virtually no time left to force OT. That's not a flop, yesterday was a flop
 
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BruinVol said:
I heard no less than 4-5 interviews with Barnes last week and even in his pregame yesterday he went out of his way to complain about how miserable life was in the bubble in every single one of them.

I think that mind set filtered thru to the team and they won’t admit it but they are glad they are free to go home.

one other thing Barnes mentioned in his pregame yesterday was the big 10 teams had been there much longer and we know they had a disaster of a day.

this tourney really is about the off the court battles imo
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The good teams are having fun and winning. Colorado doesn’t appear to be affected and they look like a team.
 
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The Dog said:
When did UT flop in the Sweet 16 ? Are u talking about Purdue ? Because that was an OT loss to the #3 seed because of a bullsh!t foul call that led to Carson Edwards shooting 3 free throw and hitting 2 of 'em with virtually no time left to force OT. That's not a flop, yesterday was a flop
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Bruce Pearl takes that team to the finals.
 
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Couple of things. Pons as a senior still lacks a consistent Alpha mentality.

When Pons played like he is capable, he was one of the most intimidating players in the country, and gives the rest of the team more of "tougher" identity. There were just times where he looked aloof.

Josiah James is the same way. Some games he is tough, other games plays weak.
 
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clausen_translation said:
I agree coach Mike K not only takes that team to the finals he gets his sixth national championship doing so. This is pretty indicative of where Barnes’s boys are at basketball knowledge wise.
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I'm not buying Pearl does considering he coached arguably the best team in UT history to a S16 ass kicking by Louisville.
 
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Hacksaw said:
Now that you mention it, Barnes would always talk about how he didn't think people outside the program realized how hard it was for the players and how much they had to sacrifice just to continue playing. This is actually a very plausible explanation for their lackluster play and a good observation on your part, OP. I don't know if you're right or wrong, but it's as good an explanation as anything else I've heard.
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I don't buy it, you're either motivated or you're not. I do think it's the coaches job to recognize that and motivate the team if they're displaying signs of complacency.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I'm not buying Pearl does considering he coached arguably the best team in UT history to a S16 ass kicking by Louisville.
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The most talented team in Vols history got beat by an average Purdue team in the sweet sixteen. The team that got beat by Louisville in the sweet sixteen had zero nba players on it and lost to a higher seed. Bruce Pearl matched or exceed his seed in the tournament ever single year. Barnes still hasn’t done it yet. That pretty much summarized it perfectly Pearl can coach in March. Barnes can’t.
 
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clausen_translation said:
The most talented team in Vols history got beat by an average Purdue team in the sweet sixteen. The team that got beat by Louisville in the sweet sixteen had zero nba players on it and lost to a higher seed. Bruce Pearl matched or exceed his seed in the tournament ever single year. Barnes still hasn’t done it yet. That pretty much summarized it perfectly Pearl can coach in March. Barnes can’t.
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That "average" Purdue team won the Big Ten regular season title. Getting beat in the Sweet Sixteen was certainly underachieving and disappointing given the players we had, but to say that was an average Purdue team just isn't accurate.
 
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BisonVol said:
That "average" Purdue team won the Big Ten regular season title. Getting beat in the Sweet Sixteen was certainly underachieving and disappointing given the players we had, but to say that was an average Purdue team just isn't accurate.
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They tied for first and lost in the first round of big ten tournament in a year that the big ten was down. They were not as good as the Louisville team that beat the Vols in the S16.
 
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