The SEC Is Bad.

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#226
Cats are ranging a 20 to 30 point lead over Georgia late. Just 3 undefeated in the SEC now.
 
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#230
Brian McCat said:
Felton's reprieve that he won in March will be short-lived, me imagines.
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From my brief glimps of them today (I turned it off about half way through the first half, then checked back to see that the second looked the same as the first,) Georgia has very little talent and makes tons of silly mistakes.

Other than that, they aren't that bad.
 
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cotton said:
From my brief glimps of them today (I turned it off about half way through the first half, then checked back to see that the second looked the same as the first,) Georgia has very little talent and makes tons of silly mistakes.

Other than that, they aren't that bad.
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Because by god, we wouldn't want to credit the Cats for blowing away anybody on the road. :)

j/k
 
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cotton said:
From my brief glimps of them today (I turned it off about half way through the first half, then checked back to see that the second looked the same as the first,) Georgia has very little talent and makes tons of silly mistakes.

Other than that, they aren't that bad.
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Georgia has some quality young talent. The next coach won't be starting from scratch.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Georgia has some quality young talent. The next coach won't be starting from scratch.
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Again, I have seen very little of them. What I did see didn't look very promising, but in fairness the sample size is small.

Brian McCat said:
Because by god, we wouldn't want to credit the Cats for blowing away anybody on the road. :)

j/k
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I've said repeatedly, and amongst some derision, that Kentucky probably has the two best players in the SEC. The other three guys have looked better than I expected, but it is a bit hard to judge their performance against a struggling UT squad and UGa.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Georgia has some quality young talent. The next coach won't be starting from scratch.
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Felton's been able to bring in players. I've made every excuse in the world for him, but the bottom line is that he's not cut for a major conference. He's a nice man, but a soon to be unemployed man.
 
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#235
Forde Minutes from ESPN telling it like it is as to the SEC:

In Need Of A Bailout


The league most resembling the automotive industry at this juncture is the Southeastern Conference. The SEC got fat and happy off Florida's back-to-back national titles in 2006 and '07, and now the place is a mess.

When The Minutes last saw SEC commissioner Mike Slive (14), he was on the field at Dolphin Stadium pumping fists, patting backs and shaking hands. Slive had just seen Florida deliver the SEC its third consecutive football national championship -- a phenomenal run.
He deserved to live it up a little -- especially since the commish had to return home to find his 12 basketball teams in tatters. As good as the league is on the gridiron, it's about that bad on the hardwood.
That's a tradeoff a vast majority of the football-crazed conference will happily make -- but the SEC isn't accustomed to being either/or. It's accustomed to a strong basketball presence in addition to grid glory. And this year it has nothing going in hoops.
For the second straight week, the SEC placed zero teams in the ESPN/USA Today Top 25. Prior to last week, that hadn't happened since ESPN became involved with the poll back in 1997-98.
As of Monday morning, the SEC remained absent from ESPN.com's InsideRPI Top 25 as well. There are nine leagues represented above the SEC in the RPI, including the Horizon, the Atlantic 10, the Mountain West and Conference USA.
Even with an alarming number of SEC teams hiding out at home during the nonconference season and playing nobodies -- 10 of the 12 schools rank 196th or lower in strength of schedule, according to Jeff Sagarin -- there have been plenty of ghastly defeats. Ducking quality opponents has not paid off.
Kentucky lost its opener to VMI. Mercer swept the state of Alabama, beating both the Crimson Tide and Auburn. Vanderbilt lost to Illinois-Chicago. Mississippi lost by 33 to New Mexico and 19 to Southern Mississippi. Georgia lost to Loyola Chicago by 21, and to Texas A&M-Corpus Christi. Arkansas lost to Missouri State. South Carolina lost to College of Charleston. And don't forget LSU, which lost by 30 to a Utah team that opened the season by losing to something called Southwest Baptist.
Part of the problem: This is a league almost entirely bereft of standout seniors and freshmen. Not enough experience at one end of the spectrum, and not enough fresh talent at the other end. The SEC's top six scorers and top four rebounders are sophomores or juniors.
There are issues in the coaching ranks as well. At present, 25 percent of the league's coaches are sweating it out. Georgia's Dennis Felton (15), Alabama's Mark Gottfried (16) and Auburn's Jeff Lebo (17) are on seats of varying heat. (Lebo's longevity could be aided by the fact that the school just spent an outrageous sum to rid itself of Tommy Tuberville and hire Gene Chizik. And the fact that Auburn really doesn't care about basketball. But then again, the school is opening a new arena in 2010-11 and probably would like some people to pay to enter it.)

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Al Messerschmidt/Getty ImagesAn up-and-down Tennessee is one reason the SEC's reputation is taking a hit nationally.


Then there are the problems at the top. The best teams simply aren't performing up to expectations.

Tennessee (18) was supposed to be the class of the conference, but it is a long way from that right now. The Volunteers (11-5 overall, 2-1 SEC) are guard-poor and have struggled against a challenging early schedule, in large part because their touted freshman class has not lived up to early hype.
Being scorched beyond recognition at home by Meeks might have been rock-bottom. We'll see if the Vols dig out from that.
Meanwhile, perennial kingpin Kentucky (19) is still in the process of returning to Kentucky-like form after years of substandard performance. Owing largely to youth, Florida (20) has endured a post-repeat dip that's lasted a bit longer than anticipated. (Though both the Wildcats and Gators are off to 3-0 league starts.) Arkansas (21) is all wild mood swings; the Razorbacks upset Oklahoma and Texas but have started SEC play 0-3. There is a power vacuum in the SEC West. And a power outage across the league.
 
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#238
Lol - apparently, According to the raycom sports announcers, Senario Hillman (spelling?) has a 71' inch vertical.
 
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#240
Didn't want to start a new thread for this so this is my best guess at a place for this question:

Televised NCAA football games are determined on a week by week basis based on perceived fan interest. Televised NCAA basketball games are set before the season and not altered. So the bad SEC is going to get some pretty crappy matchups televised this year (like last Sunday's Vandy-FL game).

Why isn't televised schedule for basketball more flexible?
 
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ZZ13 said:
Didn't want to start a new thread for this so this is my best guess at a place for this question:

Televised NCAA football games are determined on a week by week basis based on perceived fan interest. Televised NCAA basketball games are set before the season and not altered. So the bad SEC is going to get some pretty crappy matchups televised this year (like last Sunday's Vandy-FL game).

Why isn't televised schedule for basketball more flexible?
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Given the march madness set-up, having 6 losses doesn't really dampen the importance of your games to the audience that cares about you. People will watch a 1-loss uconn team as well as a 7-loss uconn team. There's just not as much at stake to warrant a complete overhaul in destination and hotel arranging and whatnot.

The football gameday stuff takes a lot of work, and it makes sense because there is an enthusiasm to it and importance that regular season basketball can't ever match.

Even if there are other reasons as to why this is the case, it will remain the case in part because of the above.
 
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#242
I have always thought it should be more flexible. At a minimum, in the SEC, it would be very easy for Raycom to decide on a weekly basis which Wednesday night games it will air. There are always 4-5 SEC games played on Wednesday, and they show 1-2 of them. Why not wait until during the season to pick the games?
 
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ukvols said:
I have always thought it should be more flexible. At a minimum, in the SEC, it would be very easy for Raycom to decide on a weekly basis which Wednesday night games it will air. There are always 4-5 SEC games played on Wednesday, and they show 1-2 of them. Why not wait until during the season to pick the games?
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I guarantee the contract with Raycom contains a provision that states each conference team must be shown a minimum number of times.
 
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#246
The auto bid from the conf.tourney is starting to look big about now.
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#247
The more I see of the SEC, the more I can envision the league not winning a single NCAA Tournament game.
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#250
I think the SEC everyone seems to think. Listening to the ESPN crew last night and them mentioning how Arkansas had wins over Oklahoma,Texas then hit league play and fail apart. Tennessee having wins over Marquette (Bob Knights pick for best team) and Georgetown and close games with LSU,Gonzaga, and a much improved Memphis teams seems to back up my thought. I like what Knight said that the teams playing well when the tourney begins are the etams to look for, not right now. I am afraid if UT loses 2-3 more our goose is cooked.
 
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