The SEC next year

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Will not be a mediocre conference unless you define mediocre as less than the best 2.

A preseason top 10 seems absurdly early at this point, but with the exception of possibly Vanderbilt and certainly Ole Miss, every SEC team will be improved next year. D Horn has a very strong class coming in and should not have all his frontcourt talent out with injury most of the year as he did last year. Billy d has talent in the frontcourt coming in to pair with maclin. Tennessee has a player who spurned all his Big East suitors to come to a school that most of us love, as well as a player who left the Big East when his coach played him way out of position exclusively.

Look around the league, auburn will be better as will LSU and UGA. The SEC should have a dramatically improved out of conference record.

To whoever told me a few months ago that UK could not possibly get a top recruiting class, you do not understand cal and his bagman wesley.

Tennessee will be much better than virginia tech next year. The hokies will be top 10 in the acc, but it is laughable to think that they will end the year over duke and unc.
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It's absurdly early to start saying Tennessee will be improved next year. There is no way in hell Kentucky will be better.
 
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Also, who said Va Tech would be better than Duke?

Bottom line, the SEC won't be markedly worse next year due to some improvement at the bottom, but they won't be markedly better because of some falling off at the top. The good news is, Tennessee is still in the top tier of the conference and with Kentucky taking a step back they should be able to make a run at the SEC crown.
 
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At this point, barring a major injury or Terrance Jones spurning the Huskies, the 2010-2011 rosters are pretty much set. The rosters you see now is what you'll see in November.
 
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Rosters are set but practices have not happened where we can observe who will contribute in a major way as a freshman, who won't be a fit etc.

I never said uk will be better than this year. This year they were the most talented team in basketball with only kansas being close and yet butler went much further than they did. They have the talent coming in to again be a top 10 team.

Virginia tech is ranked 8 in hats top 10 he just came out with, while duke is not mentioned.

South carolina and florida both have the potential to get in and stay in the top 25 next year, and the west will be so improved at the bottom that the conference rpi should be greatly improved.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Rosters are set but practices have not happened where we can observe who will contribute in a major way as a freshman, who won't be a fit etc.

I never said uk will be better than this year. This year they were the most talented team in basketball with only kansas being close and yet butler went much further than they did. They have the talent coming in to again be a top 10 team.

Virginia tech is ranked 8 in hats top 10 he just came out with, while duke is not mentioned.

South carolina and florida both have the potential to get in and stay in the top 25 next year, and the west will be so improved at the bottom that the conference rpi should be greatly improved.
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I think he had Duke ranked #2 actually.

He just listed a top 10. I think it's pretty obvious who the top 5 teams will be next season. 6-25 is where it gets tricky right now. South Carolina isn't a top 25 team.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I think he had Duke ranked #2 actually.

He just listed a top 10. I think it's pretty obvious who the top 5 teams will be next season. 6-25 is where it gets tricky right now. South Carolina isn't a top 25 team.
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You are right about duke. Have you looked at their class? I was impressed. Also look at their injuries last year. I think south carolina will be much better than people seem to expect.

I also am positive unc will be back next year.

Villanova minus scottie will not be a top 10 team.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Rosters are set but practices have not happened where we can observe who will contribute in a major way as a freshman, who won't be a fit etc.

I never said uk will be better than this year. This year they were the most talented team in basketball with only kansas being close and yet butler went much further than they did. They have the talent coming in to again be a top 10 team.

Virginia tech is ranked 8 in hats top 10 he just came out with, while duke is not mentioned.

South carolina and florida both have the potential to get in and stay in the top 25 next year, and the west will be so improved at the bottom that the conference rpi should be greatly improved.
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Come on MHF, ya gotta read that with a fine tooth comb if you're gonna nitpick :) Florida season depends on if they decide to clean the glass and work inside, or be a bunch of women and just shoot outside. Actually, that's not right...women don't mind banging down low in the post on occasion, at least. Can't say the same for Florida most of the time
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Rosters are set but practices have not happened where we can observe who will contribute in a major way as a freshman, who won't be a fit etc.

I never said uk will be better than this year. This year they were the most talented team in basketball with only kansas being close and yet butler went much further than they did. They have the talent coming in to again be a top 10 team.

Virginia tech is ranked 8 in hats top 10 he just came out with, while duke is not mentioned.

South carolina and florida both have the potential to get in and stay in the top 25 next year, and the west will be so improved at the bottom that the conference rpi should be greatly improved.
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Why do I feel like with such an open-ended and vague statement like this, you'll bump it and say "told ya guys" when the season hits? It's like you are the Oracle of Delphi, with these double-sided predictions. "Everyone will be improved"= whatever teams do well is proof MHF was right. Whoa, mind-blowing prediciton man.
 
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lylsmorr said:
Come on MHF, ya gotta read that with a fine tooth comb if you're gonna nitpick :) Florida season depends on if they decide to clean the glass and work inside, or be a bunch of women and just shoot outside. Actually, that's not right...women don't mind banging down low in the post on occasion, at least. Can't say the same for Florida most of the time
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On the blackberry and babysitting. Shouldn't have posted until I read it more carefully.

Top 25 recruiting classes, SEC and ACC have 5 the most of any conference. LSU may end up being pretty good next year. They had so few players last year I felt bad for them.
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I always laugh when some media guru says "he is a tough kid from New Yawk" as if the kids from other places are patsies. These guys who vote in the polls and run their mouths in the media are mostly based in the northeast and vote for people who "toewak" (talk) like themselves.
 
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MHF, you said that every SEC team with the possibility of two exceptions would be improved next year. Neither of the exceptions was Kentucky. What exactly is your definition of "improve?"
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I'll say it right now: Tennessee will not be a better team next year unless Tobias Harris is Carmelo Anthony and Scotty Hopson grows a pair...both of which are very unlikely.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Will not be a mediocre conference unless you define mediocre as less than the best 2.

A preseason top 10 seems absurdly early at this point, but with the exception of possibly Vanderbilt and certainly Ole Miss, every SEC team will be improved next year. D Horn has a very strong class coming in and should not have all his frontcourt talent out with injury most of the year as he did last year. Billy d has talent in the frontcourt coming in to pair with maclin. Tennessee has a player who spurned all his Big East suitors to come to a school that most of us love, as well as a player who left the Big East when his coach played him way out of position exclusively.

Look around the league, auburn will be better as will LSU and UGA. The SEC should have a dramatically improved out of conference record.

To whoever told me a few months ago that UK could not possibly get a top recruiting class, you do not understand cal and his bagman wesley.

Tennessee will be much better than virginia tech next year. The hokies will be top 10 in the acc, but it is laughable to think that they will end the year over duke and unc.
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Since you already mis-quoted Hat once, may as well throw this one in there also. All he posted was a pre-season top 10, not a final year ranking or conference standings at seasons end. C'mon man.
 
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emainvol said:
MHF, you said that every SEC team with the possibility of two exceptions would be improved next year. Neither of the exceptions was Kentucky. What exactly is your definition of "improve?"
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Wake up. Didn't you see that South Carolina lost the only two guys they had who could score? That means they will be vastly improved. Auburn returns about 5 points per game, they have to be better. Kentucky stocked the first round of the NBA Draft, they'll probably only lose a game or two. Tennessee will be starting a point guard who for the majority of last season was an average 12 minute a night guy and has no Wayne Chism. That's almost like having a bye to the Final Four.
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hatvol96 said:
Why would you ruin a perfectly good moronic rant by interjecting facts?
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Care to explain why saying a team is a top 10 team over other teams is not the same as saying they will finish above the teams you exclude in the conference.

That top 10 was idiotic, particularly that the hokies are a top 10 team.

UK should get past the sweet 16 this year if cal does a better job coaching unreal talent to victories that matter.

Hats top 10 is a joke. It is almost as bad as his "analysis" of talent like jp prince and melvin goins. Then again this is someone who said bruce pearl would not last more than 3 years, that he couldn't coach defense and that they would not advance past the sweet 16.
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hatvol96 said:
Wake up. Didn't you see that South Carolina lost the only two guys they had who could score? That means they will be vastly improved. Auburn returns about 5 points per game, they have to be better. Kentucky stocked the first round of the NBA Draft, they'll probably only lose a game or two. Tennessee will be starting a point guard who for the majority of last season was an average 12 minute a night guy and has no Wayne Chism. That's almost like having a bye to the Final Four.
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Succinct and correct, love it.

It's funny that some of the same people that were screaming "Kentucky is overrated, we have no idea how the freshmen will play" are banking on a crap ton of freshmen this year.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Care to explain why saying a team is a top 10 team over other teams is not the same as saying they will finish above the teams you exclude in the conference.

That top 10 was idiotic, particularly that the hokies are a top 10 team.

UK should get past the sweet 16 this year if cal does a better job coaching unreal talent to victories that matter.

Hats top 10 is a joke. It is almost as bad as his "analysis" of talent like jp prince and melvin goins. Then again this is someone who said bruce pearl would not last more than 3 years, that he couldn't coach defense and that they would not advance past the sweet 16.
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He didn't put VaTech over Duke. Learn to read.
 
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Of course some of the teams will be better (LSU, S. Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, Alabama) because they can't get any worse. These teams were terrible last year and should improve. It's way too early to say Tennessee will be improved and Kentucky won't maintain last years level of play recruiting all "one and done" players. You left Miss State off the list of teams that should be worse next year.
 
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mtvols said:
Of course some of the teams will be better (LSU, S. Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, Alabama) because they can't get any worse. These teams were terrible last year and should improve. It's way too early to say Tennessee will be improved and Kentucky won't maintain last years level of play recruiting all "one and done" players. You left Miss State off the list of teams that should be worse next year.
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Oh, Arkansas can get worse.

South Carolina has a good class coming in, but a lot to replace. I wouldn't bank on them being much better than last year if at all. The next year they should be decent.

Auburn will be slightly better simply because they will have a competent coach.

Anyone thinking that Kentucky will improve next year is out of touch with reality.

Tennessee will be okay by the end of the year, but it will be a long tough road and the PG spot will once again be an issue.
 
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mtvols said:
Of course some of the teams will be better (LSU, S. Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, Alabama) because they can't get any worse. These teams were terrible last year and should improve. It's way too early to say Tennessee will be improved and Kentucky won't maintain last years level of play recruiting all "one and done" players. You left Miss State off the list of teams that should be worse next year.
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I'd like someone to explain to me how LSU, South Carolina, and Auburn are going to be better next year. LSU lost the only legitimate player it had. The same can be said for South Carolina. Auburn lost what little scoring it had. So, how are they going to be better?

You are right about us and UK. UK definitely will not be at the same level. But considering what everyone else lost, I think the best teams in the conference will be UT and UK, and possibly Florida.
 
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