The shut down thread

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Orange_Vol1321 said:




House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed that Democrats are preparing a spending package that would allocate roughly $3 billion in gifts for illegal aliens, and American taxpayers would be stuck footing the bill.

While speaking at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities on Wednesday, Pelosi made it clear that she does not support a border wall, but is apparently in favor of using taxpayer money to provide food, clothing, and medical supplies to illegal aliens.

Pelosi explained that the congressional committee putting together the spending package — which must be passed by Feb. 15, or the government will shutdown again — will include “sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants” who come to the United States.
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She just keeps digging in. Maybe her motive is that if she offers enough in the opposite direction, then doing nothing of hers while not securing the border is actually compromise. She is an total obstructionist and opportunist ... among other things ... none of them good.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
So you're saying ms13 doesn't like using the train?

Did you see the irony of the sign in the video? No guns allowed. All the citizens were abiding by it.
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If there had only been multiple people with guns--none of whom knew who was good or bad--I'm sure all the bullets flying who have just magically found the bad guys.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:




House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed that Democrats are preparing a spending package that would allocate roughly $3 billion in gifts for illegal aliens, and American taxpayers would be stuck footing the bill.

While speaking at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities on Wednesday, Pelosi made it clear that she does not support a border wall, but is apparently in favor of using taxpayer money to provide food, clothing, and medical supplies to illegal aliens.

Pelosi explained that the congressional committee putting together the spending package — which must be passed by Feb. 15, or the government will shutdown again — will include “sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants” who come to the United States.
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so just immigrants. as long as they are legal, not a big deal imo.

if we are going to make the distinction in the justification for a wall/border security, we have to allow it on the other side.
 
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LouderVol said:
so just immigrants. as long as they are legal, not a big deal imo.

if we are going to make the distinction in the justification for a wall/border security, we have to allow it on the other side.
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The story and Pelosi wasn't talking about legals, it says illegals.
 
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evillawyer said:
If there had only been multiple people with guns--none of whom knew who was good or bad--I'm sure all the bullets flying who have just magically found the bad guys.
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if only guns had been banned they would have all been safe

i think people defending themselves with a gun are more trustworthy (safe) with a gun than cops. at least per number of incidents. I mean seriously when was the last time you heard of a victim shooting a bystander? I am sure there are some. But take a look down google for cops shooting innocent people and you find A LOT. no idea on actual number.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
The story and Pelosi wasn't talking about legals, it says illegals.
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
The story and Pelosi wasn't talking about legals, it says illegals.
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the story might have been, but Pelosi guarded her words:
“sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants” .....We both care, all of us on either side of the wall question — but all care about treating the people who come, so there will be sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants
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at least per the article she doesn't mention illegals.
 
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LouderVol said:
i think people defending themselves with a gun are more trustworthy (safe) with a gun than cops. at least per number of incidents. I mean seriously when was the last time you heard of a victim shooting a bystander?
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Huh? How often does a third party/bystander become involved in the shooting? Not often.
 
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LouderVol said:
the story might have been, but Pelosi guarded her words:

at least per the article she doesn't mention illegals.
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LouderVol said:
the story might have been, but Pelosi guarded her words:

at least per the article she doesn't mention illegals.
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You left off a bit there.


Pelosi explained that the congressional committee putting together the spending package — which must be passed by Feb. 15, or the government will shutdown again — will include “sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants” who come to the United States.[/b]
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We both know she isn't talking about the immigrants signing up and doing it legally.


“We both care, all of us on either side of the wall question — but all care about treating the people who come, so there will be sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants coming across the border so we don’t have people dying in our custody – children,” Pelosi added.
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I think you left out the underlined in that above when you quoted this paragraph


She continued: “There’ll be sizable funding for additional judges to more quickly adjudicate these cases so that it doesn’t become, well, they’re here such a long time. Well, it’s because we have such a backlog too, so we’ll have that.”
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She wants to run the illegals through judges like a Las Vegas wedding chapel. They're using taxpayer money.


"There’ll be funding to send money to the countries where most of these people are coming from – the northern triangle – to try to alleviate some of the conditions that have exacerbated the situation there, to mitigate for the horror that some of them face,” Pelosi said.
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Money.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
You left off a bit there.




We both know she isn't talking about the immigrants signing up and doing it legally.





I think you left out the underlined in that above when you quoted this paragraph





She wants to run the illegals through judges like a Las Vegas wedding chapel. They're using taxpayer money.




Money.
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those in custody could be the asylum seekers. As much as I think it is overused we still have to treat that process like its legit. again she doesn't specify illegals or those NOT going thru the process. if we are going to make the distinction, we have to allow it on the other side.

I am all for more judges, more judges means more LEGAL immigrants. if you are fine with legal immigration you should be fine with more judges. everything our government does takes too long. no issue addressing this issue.

money to other countries. where people haven't immigrated. personally I would love to stop all money leaving this nation to other nations, but again not going to illegal immigrants.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Imagine all the crime that must have been going on there.

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imagine all the hypocrisy in pointing this out as an issue.

either they are a bad thing, and this is worth ridicule. or they are a good thing, and this is not worth ridicule. pick a side and stick with it.

this is one of the places where harsh penalties on the employer would be nice. if the Dems had just gone with Trump's changes, they could be rubbing his face in actual laws, and not just rhetoric.
 
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LouderVol said:
those in custody could be the asylum seekers. As much as I think it is overused we still have to treat that process like its legit. again she doesn't specify illegals or those NOT going thru the process. if we are going to make the distinction, we have to allow it on the other side.

I am all for more judges, more judges means more LEGAL immigrants. if you are fine with legal immigration you should be fine with more judges. everything our government does takes too long. no issue addressing this issue.

money to other countries. where people haven't immigrated. personally I would love to stop all money leaving this nation to other nations, but again not going to illegal immigrants.
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“We both care, all of us on either side of the wall question — but all care about treating the people who come, so there will be sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants coming across the border so we don’t have people dying in our custody – children,” Pelosi added.


If the part that says "for the immigrants coming across the border" doesn't mean illegals to you I can't help you. I could care less if she used the word "illegals", she clearly means it.
 
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