The shut down thread

[Stew Cook]

He just did that’s what you are missing , open your eyes .. he just took it from someone saying it won’t happen . But your TDS is somehow spinning that to mean he got blasted . Smh

Trump, being the master negotiater, turned down 5 billion a few months ago. So, Pelosi offers a fraction as a counter offer and you're claiming a moral victory?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Trump didn't win but Nancy was the loser in this. No way you can spin the reduction in detainees as a positive to the average voter. Average Joe will here "You fought a wall then demanded less illegal immigrant detainment beds". How do you think he will see that?

I see it as Trump failing to convince anyone not wearing a red hat that we need a wall and the left not spend money unnecessarily.

 

[hog88]

I see it a Trump failing to convince anyone not wearing a red hat that we need a wall and the left not spend money unnecessarily.

You're predisposed to only see one side.

Believe me the campaign ads will be vicious.

 

[Mick]

You're predisposed to only see one side.

Believe me the campaign ads will be vicious.

Haven't you learned anything from the Right wing, Attack Ads don't work. Oh, yeah that is just a line you use whenever someone talks about russian memes and social media campaigns.

 

[LouderVol]

Private Gump is not going to track down any info on cartels no matter where they are.

maybe Private Bubba then.

if they aren't helping why shift them back for intel?

 

[Mick]

maybe Private Bubba then.

if they aren't helping why shift them back for intel?

If they aren't helping why have them there at all? You'll figure it out.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Good news folks,. After my assistant (duckduckgo) and I did some research this morning. We have found that the shut down is over.

Y'all can now go argue in the Q, and the Putin/Russia conspiracy thread....

 

[LouderVol]

I see it as Trump failing to convince anyone not wearing a red hat that we need a wall and the left not spend money unnecessarily.

Bush 1 & 2, Clinton, Obama, all increased funding for the border wall. Did Trump retroactively convince them they needed a wall? Schumer and Nancy have both supported a wall multiple times.

the same need is there. but now that Trump ran on it it becomes a bad thing that no one should ever support.

 

[AirVol]

Haven't you learned anything from the Right wing, Attack Ads don't work. Oh, yeah that is just a line you use whenever someone talks about russian memes and social media campaigns.

Those ads work, ask the Russians. I mean that’s what the media told you, right?

 

[Hunerwadel]

You're predisposed to only see one side.

Believe me the campaign ads will be vicious.

......and ineffective. The way he is attacking the border problem isn't going to play well for Trump in '20 outside of his base. He's cried wolf too often and his demonization of an entire race of people hasn't played well with most Americans. (nearly half of Americans aren't white)

Contrary to Right wing spin the Left is not for open borders. Both sides need to come up with a workable plan for stopping illegal crossings and especially find a way to halt the flow of drugs.

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump, being the master negotiater, turned down 5 billion a few months ago. So, Pelosi offers a fraction as a counter offer and you're claiming a moral victory?

I’m not claiming anything except the Dems trying to spin this as a Pelosi dog walking Trump thing is quiet the reach . You do realize she said she would not give one $ to the wall right ? If you e ever negotiated anything you shoot for the moonbeam and settle for what you think you can get . Trump no matter how you spin still got wall funding and Pelosi , no matter how you spin still gave in to that idea .
It’s not hard to be honest guys .

 

[Mick]

Those ads work, ask the Russians. I mean that’s what the media told you, right?

Has it ever occured to you Why you post the stuff you do? You either believe it or you are knowingly passing it off as truths. Either way it doesn't look good for you.

 

[Mick]

I’m not claiming anything except the Dems trying to spin this as a Pelosi dog walking Trump thing is quiet the reach . You do realize she said she would not give one $ to the wall right ? If you e ever negotiated anything you shoot for the moonbeam and settle for what you think you can get . Trump no matter how you spin still got wall funding and Pelosi , no matter how you spin still gave in to that idea .
It’s not hard to be honest guys .

Pelosi was asked whether Democrats would accept “even a dollar” for construction of Trump’s border wall, the bone of contention between Democrats and the administration in a budget battle that centers on funding a wall on the Mexican border.

“A dollar? A dollar? Yeah, one dollar,” Pelosi joked.

 

[LouderVol]

If they aren't helping why have them there at all? You'll figure it out.

i think they could be helping at the border. not sure how they could help out back from the border. if they aren't being useful, send them home.

 

[Stew Cook]

I’m not claiming anything except the Dems trying to spin this as a Pelosi dog walking Trump thing is quiet the reach . You do realize she said she would not give one $ to the wall right ? If you e ever negotiated anything you shoot for the moonbeam and settle for what you think you can get . Trump no matter how you spin still got wall funding and Pelosi , no matter how you spin still gave in to that idea .
It’s not hard to be honest guys .

Unless you take into account that it's no "wall" at all.

 

[0nelilreb]

Pelosi was asked whether Democrats would accept “even a dollar” for construction of Trump’s border wall, the bone of contention between Democrats and the administration in a budget battle that centers on funding a wall on the Mexican border.

“A dollar? A dollar? Yeah, one dollar,” Pelosi joked.

Well she didn’t lie she gave a dollar and a lot of change .

 

[C-south]

Haven't you learned anything from the Right wing, Attack Ads don't work. Oh, yeah that is just a line you use whenever someone talks about russian memes and social media campaigns.

There will be plenty of those too.

 

[Mick]

I’m not claiming anything except the Dems trying to spin this as a Pelosi dog walking Trump thing is quiet the reach . You do realize she said she would not give one $ to the wall right ? If you e ever negotiated anything you shoot for the moonbeam and settle for what you think you can get . Trump no matter how you spin still got wall funding and Pelosi , no matter how you spin still gave in to that idea .
It’s not hard to be honest guys .

Trump promised you a big beautiful $25B wall and you got $1B. Pelosi said $1 and ending up giving over $1B. You do the math.

 

[0nelilreb]

Unless you take into account that it's no "wall" at all.

Really ? Would you feel better if it was called a “ barrier “ or a “really strong fence “. Word games are cute .

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

He's going where he knows he's popular. Let's see him in an East or West coast state. Where educated people are.

lulz. Seems you still don't know why your girl lost.

 

[lawgator1]

I’m going to give her credit for caving and giving into Trymps demand for wall funds . You guys wanted the house and everything that comes with it .. congrats you own it now .

If Trumpsters are going to claim victory for $1.3 b, when they wanted $25 b from Mexico, then $20 b from Congress, then $5.7b from Congress, that's just hilarious !

 

[Hunerwadel]

I’m not claiming anything except the Dems trying to spin this as a Pelosi dog walking Trump thing is quiet the reach . You do realize she said she would not give one $ to the wall right ? If you e ever negotiated anything you shoot for the moonbeam and settle for what you think you can get . Trump no matter how you spin still got wall funding and Pelosi , no matter how you spin still gave in to that idea .
It’s not hard to be honest guys .

Let me think about this for a minute ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Nah, Trump got dog walked.

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump promised you a big beautiful $25B wall and you got $1B. Pelosi said $1 and ending up giving over $1B. You do the math.

I don’t have to do the math I know if you have zero and you get 1.3-1.5 billion ... that’s a good day . Hold both hands out mick , put $ 100 in one and leave the other empty , now move the Hundo into the other hand ... see it’s easy .

 

[0nelilreb]

If Trumpsters are going to claim victory for $1.3 b, when they wanted $25 b from Mexico, then $20 b from Congress, then $5.7b from Congress, that's just hilarious !

I don’t know what will be claimed ( as much as possible I assume ) I do know that last week there was zero funding now there’s 1.3 .

 

[0nelilreb]

Let me think about this for a minute ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Nah, Trump got dog walked.

I wouldn’t expect anything less from you . I’d actually be disappointed if you agreed that he didn’t .