The shut down thread

[0nelilreb]

Yes, and I didn't even mention the best part. The entire Trump crime family is in jail, awaiting sentence, under indictment or under investigation. Do I have TDS? Damn straight I do.

Only 11 more steps to go , We are pullin for you Eeyore

 

[rjd970]

I don’t know what will be claimed ( as much as possible I assume ) I do know that last week there was zero funding now there’s 1.3 .

This is sitting on the 1 yard line and Trump promised a 99 yard TD play. The end result is a 5 yard play and it is being spun as victory and the defense caved. It's absurd.

Trump promised Mexico would pay for all $25 Billion and at the end of the day the American people are writing a check for $1 Billion.

This is a miserable failure. Simply no other way to spin it.

 

[luthervol]

Same song and dance for two years . The only difference is Hillary isn’t there to collect all those liberal votes , so who ya got that will do that ? Elizabeth Warren , Bernie , Booker , Harris .. Or one of the other 30 ?

Any of the 34 will suffice and all represent a significant upgrade.

 

[luthervol]

This is sitting on the 1 yard line and Trump promised a 99 yard TD play. The end result is a 5 yard play and it is being spun as victory and the defense caved. It's absurd.

Trump promised Mexico would pay for all $25 Billion and at the end of the day the American people are writing a check for $1 Billion.

This is a miserable failure. Simply no other way to spin it.

Great analogy.

 

[rjd970]

Trump wanted $25B in deficit spending and got $1.3B. That is a win for fiscal conservatism.

Actually Trump wanted a free $25 Billion on Mexico's dime. The American people are writing a check so he can claim partial victory.

This is a loss either way.

 

[0nelilreb]

This is sitting on the 1 yard line and Trump promised a 99 yard TD play. The end result is a 5 yard play and it is being spun as victory and the defense caved. It's absurd.

Trump promised Mexico would pay for all $25 Billion and at the end of the day the American people are writing a check for $1 Billion.

This is a miserable failure. Simply no other way to spin it.

What did Chuck and Nancy promise ? See we can go round and round with this he’s better no she’s better stuff all day . The fact is , no shut down and there is somewhere between 1.3-1.5 going to fund the “ wall, barrier , fence , a thing that gets in your way “ . Sounds like a compromise to me .

 

[0nelilreb]

Any of the 34 will suffice and all represent a significant upgrade.

So you will throw your support behind Elizabeth Warren for president ? Do that and I promise you’ll have 4 more years of Trump .

 

[luthervol]

What did Chuck and Nancy promise ? See we can go round and round with this he’s better no she’s better stuff all day . The fact is , no shut down and there is somewhere between 1.3-1.5 going to fund the “ wall, barrier , fence , a thing that gets in your way “ . Sounds like a compromise to me .

We gave up the short yardage in the middle of the field as the clock ticked toward zero.

 

[Mick]

Actually Trump wanted a free $25 Billion on Mexico's dime. The American people are writing a check so he can claim partial victory.

This is a loss either way.

Don the con. I hope people can sleep well at night now.

 

[luthervol]

So you will throw your support behind Elizabeth Warren for president ? Do that and I promise you’ll have 4 more years of Trump .

I'll support whoever runs against Trump (or more accurately - the 2020 repub. nominee.)

 

[0nelilreb]

We gave up the short yardage in the middle of the field as the clock ticked toward zero.

The clock is at half time and it was a long half , remember the lightening delay you said we were under ?lol

 

[rjd970]

What did Chuck and Nancy promise ? See we can go round and round with this he’s better no she’s better stuff all day . The fact is , no shut down and there is somewhere between 1.3-1.5 going to fund the “ wall, barrier , fence , a thing that gets in your way “ . Sounds like a compromise to me .

Trump gave up more, a WHOLE lot more. Lets not forget, the starting position was $25B from Mexico. We are going to end up paying $1.5B. That means Trump is -$26.5B in the hole from where he started. Maybe he is the deal maker, but he got schooled on this one.

 

[0nelilreb]

I'll support whoever runs against Trump (or more accurately - the 2020 repub. nominee.)

I hope it’s warren just so you and your buddy Mick have to vote for her

 

[Stew Cook]

What did Chuck and Nancy promise ? See we can go round and round with this he’s better no she’s better stuff all day . The fact is , no shut down and there is somewhere between 1.3-1.5 going to fund the “ wall, barrier , fence , a thing that gets in your way “ . Sounds like a compromise to me .

Not heard fro Big Orange yet...

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump gave up more, a WHOLE lot more. Lets not forget, the starting position was $25B from Mexico. We are going to end up paying $1.5B. That means Trump is -$26.5B in the hole from where he started. Maybe he is the deal maker, but he got schooled on this one.

The starting point in this negotiation was zero that’s what THE SPEAKER promised . The starting point for every negotionation is zero . What you get on the end is what you gain or lose .

 

[luthervol]

I hope it’s warren just so you and your buddy Mick have to vote for her

If Trump were the alternative, it would be the easiest vote ever cast.

 

[0nelilreb]

If Trump were the alternative, it would be the easiest vote ever cast.

I’m afraid there’s millions that will feel the same way only on the opposite side .

 

[luthervol]

I’m afraid there’s millions that will feel the same way only on the opposite side .

No doubt. There were just barely enough in 2016. 2020 will be different........or at least I hope so for the sake of humanity and all that is holy.

 

[0nelilreb]

No doubt. There were just barely enough in 2016. 2020 will be different........or at least I hope so for the sake of humanity and all that is holy.

You realize you are so heavily invested in this that you are willing to vote for Elizabth Warren as president for the sake of humanity, did you think about that before you said it ? That is no different than the ones you accuse of voting for Trump because he’s on the Rs ticket .

 

[luthervol]

You realize you are so heavily invested in this that you are willing to vote for Elizabth Warren as president for the sake of humanity, did you think about that before you said it ? That is no different than the ones you accuse of voting for Trump because he’s on the Rs ticket .

I do know that. Two people could easily have been equally obstinate in their assurance, one that the earth was flat, the other that the earth were round. They would be guilty only of being equally obstinate, not of being equally wrong.

 

[lawgator1]

Finally ... theres the real answer .

Lol


Trump got embarrassed. As usual.

He is a stain on the reputation and integrity of the nation. Nothing you say, no spin you offer, can counter the reality of Trump's claims:

1) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for entirely by Mexico, in one check.

2) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for by Mexico in trade deals.

3) Less wall, $25 billion, to be paid by Congress.

4) Even less wall, to be paid for by Congress, $20 billion.

5) Congress to make adown payment on some wall, $5.7 billion.

Deal is $1.3 billion which will buy 50 miles of wall.

That's not compromise. That us UTTER CAPITULATION by Trump.

 

[Mick]

Lol


Trump got embarrassed. As usual.

He is a stain on the reputation and integrity of the nation. Nothing you say, no spin you offer, can counter the reality of Trump's claims:

1) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for entirely by Mexico, in one check.

2) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for by Mexico in trade deals.

3) Less wall, $25 billion, to be paid by Congress.

4) Even less wall, to be paid for by Congress, $20 billion.

5) Congress to make adown payment on some wall, $5.7 billion.

Deal is $1.3 billion which will buy 50 miles of wall.

That's not compromise. That us UTTER CAPITULATION by Trump.

Still plenty of time for Trump to torpedo this deal as well.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Trump got 4% of what he wanted, Pelosi gave 1,000,000,000% what she said she would.

considering it was all Pelosi's money to start with, and beggars can't be choosers, it sounds like a compromise to me.

52% approval rating will do that to someone saying "no money for the wall at all." Lol

 

[Velo Vol]

The starting point in this negotiation was zero that’s what THE SPEAKER promised . The starting point for every negotionation is zero . What you get on the end it what you gain or lose .

The starting point was that Mexican caravans are flooding over and either killing Americans directly, or indirectly with drugs. We must have this wall to protect ourselves.

Were are we at now?

 

[0nelilreb]

Lol


Trump got embarrassed. As usual.

He is a stain on the reputation and integrity of the nation. Nothing you say, no spin you offer, can counter the reality of Trump's claims:

1) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for entirely by Mexico, in one check.

2) 2000 miles of wall to be paid for by Mexico in trade deals.

3) Less wall, $25 billion, to be paid by Congress.

4) Even less wall, to be paid for by Congress, $20 billion.

5) Congress to make adown payment on some wall, $5.7 billion.

Deal is $1.3 billion which will buy 50 miles of wall.

That's not compromise. That us UTTER CAPITULATION by Trump.

-That’s 50 miles ( according to your expert wall building experience ) that wasn’t going to get built last week .

- 1.3 is more than was allotted last week .


No spin just fact. Anyway you tell your story it was a compromise.