The statement so far that bolsters my hope most

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Fellow quarterback junior Justin Worley, the lone QB with any real snaps under his belt, explained that it’s been a more progressive installation rather than the all-at-once strategy employed by the previous coaching staff.
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Fulmer also had a "throw it all at them, see what sticks" approach.

I personally believe that you start with the base plays, master them, then build on them. That seems to be the method of champions.

My old HS has had a very long and successful run of conference and state championships... and has run some version of the veer option since 1977. For the last 15-20 years, they've shared the playbook with the youth football coaches. Kids run the same system and build on it from the time they are 6 or 7 until they graduate.

I will be very interested to see how this works for Jones.
 
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I could have sworn the previous staff said they started with the basics and went from there as well. That being said, I'm guessing that wasn't true as evidenced how the team didn't seem to be on the same page on either side of the ball.

I think Butch Jones is going to have us competing for the SEC in the next few years.
 
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(On coaches forcing players to master a concept before they move on to the next one)

"I feel like it’s good for everyone. We’re not exactly taking it slow but the coaches will make us do stuff over until we get it right. The coaches say the same things a million times just to remind us, which is good because last year we had a lot of missed assignments and people not knowing what to do. This year we’re pretty confident." - LB Christian Harris

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sjt18 said:
Fulmer also had a "throw it all at them, see what sticks" approach.

I personally believe that you start with the base plays, master them, then build on them. That seems to be the method of champions.

My old HS has had a very long and successful run of conference and state championships... and has run some version of the veer option since 1977. For the last 15-20 years, they've shared the playbook with the youth football coaches. Kids run the same system and build on it from the time they are 6 or 7 until they graduate.

I will be very interested to see how this works for Jones.
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Fulmer didn't make a habit of playing Fresh and Soph so they had time to learn it.
 
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volKano said:
Fulmer didn't make a habit of playing Fresh and Soph so they had time to learn it.
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Jamaal Lewis, Casey Clausen, Manning, Eric Berry, John Henderson, Albert Haynesworth, A. Foster, all come to mind, as freshmen who were starters before the season ended. So, the list is rather short!!!
 
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I like everything I have seen off the field. The staff seems to be doing things the correct way to get us headed back to competing. All the off the field stuff makes me excited to see what kind of product they will be putting on the field. I am ready for the O&W game to get some what of an idea of how they will look this fall.
 
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thebjd said:
Fulmer had a pretty good track record with quarterbacks.
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What always irked me was the philosophy of "If the running backs don't know the protection scheme, they don't play"...hence Mark Levine playing over Jamal Lewis...probably cost us the Florida game in Peyton's senior year....when they finally unleashed Jamal later, great results and suddenly pass protection not an issue. Coach Fulmer seemed to adjust after that season and true freshmen featured more and more prominently for the rest of his tenure...but defending Fulmer always involved charges of bad basic fundamentals and I was on the losing side of those arguments
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sjt18 said:
Fulmer also had a "throw it all at them, see what sticks" approach.

I personally believe that you start with the base plays, master them, then build on them. That seems to be the method of champions.

My old HS has had a very long and successful run of conference and state championships... and has run some version of the veer option since 1977. For the last 15-20 years, they've shared the playbook with the youth football coaches. Kids run the same system and build on it from the time they are 6 or 7 until they graduate.

I will be very interested to see how this works for Jones.
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Yes, we need every high school, middle school, and youth league around the state running our system.. That would resolve the "lack of in-state talent" problem. Excellent point.
 
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davethevol said:
I could have sworn the previous staff said they started with the basics and went from there as well. That being said, I'm guessing that wasn't true as evidenced how the team didn't seem to be on the same page on either side of the ball.

I think Butch Jones is going to have us competing for the SEC in the next few years.
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I am sure I cannot find the quote now but my stomach churned when I heard Dooley say "We'll throw it all at them and see what sticks".
 
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BTW, I am talking exclusively about installing the system... and NOT teaching fundamentals of blocking, tackling, throwing, etc.

Right after Jones was hired someone posted a long article about his "system" and specifically his pass playbook. Everything was built off of base plays. You master it. You then install a variation of that play. Then another until you have a whole series of plays based on that one formation and play.
 
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By contrast, Fulmer once bragged that his playbook included every play he'd ever seen... not a lot of system or discipline to that.
 
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ManningBerry#1 said:
Fulmer had a great track record period.
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Fulmer had a two part career. The last part was not "great" and in fact led to the pain UT is going through now.

The first part was pretty good.... except for his struggles against UF.
 
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BOP said:
Yes, we need every high school, middle school, and youth league around the state running our system.. That would resolve the "lack of in-state talent" problem. Excellent point.
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Most in this area do as far as I know.
 
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volKano said:
Fulmer didn't make a habit of playing Fresh and Soph so they had time to learn it.
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Learn what?

I can think of several more guys he had play as Fr or So going back to Shuler who started as a Soph.
 
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BOP said:
Yes, we need every high school, middle school, and youth league around the state running our system.. That would resolve the "lack of in-state talent" problem. Excellent point.
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Hey Mo. It isn't all that uncommon for coaches to show some favor toward kids that run similar systems in HS.... but that was hardly the point of the post.

The point is you build a foundation then more on top of that so that you always have something you have mastered to build on.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
It's a sneaky one isn't it! I was texting earlier to a friend and noticed it changes legitimate words randomly too. I was talking about my cat and it changed it to fat for some reason LOL
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This is way off topic but best thing I have found for texting is a program called "Swift Key". It's a predictive text program which makes very few errors. BTW I just use it, I don't know anything about the company or program.
 
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